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Best product for dog Arthritis

Hi

Dog is now 12 and having difficulty with arthritis in his hips. He is a big dog about 45kg. Someone recommded a product called Canosan which i can order online here. Really expensive so would appreciate any feedback from anyone who has used it. Alternatively, if anyone can recommend anything else. What to get him something as soon as possible

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I did recently get him the 4Pets Easy Step ramp to get him in and out the car and it is a fantastic product - extremely well made

Any help would be great

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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

There are different forms of arthritis. I suggest you get a good diagnosis and a prescription from a Swiss vet, you probably need a blood test to get a correct diagnosis. Then take the prescription to a pharmacy in Germany, where the products are about half price.

If you buy stuff on the Internet you cannot be sure the product is genuine. Animal and human pharmaceuticals are similar, and there are many forgeries about.
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

Lynda, there is no 'best' product for canine arthritis, as what is needed depends on the individual dog's condition, on the individual dog's general health, on the potential for side effects, on the dog's needs based on quality of life issues.

I have had a many senior dogs with mobility concerns at the later stages of their lives, and have found that for optimal results I had to use different approaches with each dog.


Here are two good threads where some possibilities are discussed:
Long term use of painkillers [in dogs]

Cartrophen for Dogs...


What ever route you choose - either meds, supplements, or other mobility supports or techniques - please do your research, understand what tests should be done prior to starting treatment, what sort of monitoring is required, understand possible side effects, and certainly understand expectations. Understand also that often a trial and error approach is needed to find the optimal regime for your dog.

I will stress again: It's all about quality of life.

And above all: This is a discussion you should have with your vet!
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

Yes, he is also under a vet and besides the stiffness in his hip/hind leg is very healthy. He has some good days and thinks he is still a puppy and then suffers from stiffness the next. He does not seem to be in pain and is still very happy and has a good quality of life

He was on some tablets which contained glucosamine last year and they really helped except he hated the taste of them! The Canosan was mentioned onthe Cartrophen thread and on another post on the forum and I was wondering if it would help as an addition to vet treatment. It seems to be a food supplement. The link on where you can buy it in CH I found on the German manufacturer own website so I assume it is an OK site.

So while it absolutely needs to go via a vet, I have heard good things on it including a clinical trial in USA. Was wondering if anyone had any experience with it, It is a natural supplement rather than NSAID
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

I've not used Canosan, so cannot advise I'm afraid. A quick look at the product manfacturer's website doesn't list the exact ingredients so it's impossible to say if other less expensive products might be a subsitute (Luposan, etc.)


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For what it's worth, the nutricuticles (non-food, non-drug supplements) that I have used with my various wobbly mutts, condition dependent, are:

Foster And Smith Joint Care, which I bring back from the US:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=24873
(This is liver/bacon flavored, so no acceptance issues.)

Doils Joint Oil, from my vet:
http://www.doils.net/v1/producten/pr...age=en&prod=ar

Yumove, also from the vet:
http://www.lintbells.com/products/yumove-advance

The Belltie gets acupuncture every 3-4 weeks as well. And he wears a stability splint on the joint that is enlarged by arthritis calcium deposits.

But with all I have used pain medication as the primary treatment.

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Young Heffalump does physiotherapy for mobility issues. (His joint concerns are related to incorrect gait, not arthritis, and we hoping to correct the gait to resolve the problem - and prevent future problems.)

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Have you spoken to your vet about the Canosan? It would be interesting to hear what he/she says about the product.
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

It might be worth considering acupuncture as a form of pain relief. Our darling Bella had it for her back and we are certain it gave relief, we started whilst we lived in Belgium, over the cold,damp months every 10 or 8 weeks and progressed here to all year every 5 weeks along with physio massage in between. You could really see she was more supple after the treatments. We also knew an Airdale with a slipped disc who had to be reminded he wasn't allowed to play football after each acupuncture treatment. Might not work for your four legged friend but worth a try in my opinion.
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated. Of course he had to get very stiff over the weekend when I cannot make a vet appointment. Yes, I had thought of acupuncture for him, although he is the biggest baby ever so not sure how he will react to it. As a temporary relief for the weekend I have given him curcumin and massage and he is far less stiff now.

And thanks to Meloncollie for the links to the natural supplements, which I will look into. I will let you know what the vet says about the Canosan.

He is definitely getting older now although half the time he still thinks he is a puppy.
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

Don't worry about him being a big baby. Bella used to vibrate with fear at the mear mention of the vet, but with both who gave her acupuncture and the physio she absolutely trusted them after and indeed during her first visit. It doesn't hurt, and I think they must give out a calming aura or something. When we first went she used to fall asleep whilst still standing and guess who was holding her up!
If you would like info on my vet just send a pm, he is away for the next 2 weeks though. Best of luck
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Re: Best product for dog Arthritis

We call our acupuncture appointments 'The Belltie's Spa Day'.

I, too, worried that he would not tolerate acupuncture - stoicism is not the Belltie's strong suit, not by a long shot.

But I was surprised - he not only tolerates it, but clearly enjoys the sessions. A few times he has been so relaxed he has fallen asleep.

I'm generally skeptical about alternative treatments - and was about this, too. Maybe it's the acupuncture, maybe the Belltie simply benefits from the extra care and attention. As my general practice vet said when he suggested it, there is little scientific literature to support it's use - but at this stage, given that the Belltie's options are limited, why not try? It can't hurt, and he has seen cases where it seems to have helped.

That comment was 2 years ago, and the Belltie is still here, still happily bumbling about.

But one thing is clear - his 'spa days' do add to his quality of life.

There are many factors contributing to the Belltie's longevity in spite of the odds. We assess all the things that make sense to try, and we keep trying so long as his quality of life remains good.

We see Dr Annina Laim at the Ennetseeklinik in Hünenberg ZG for the acupuncture sessions, she keeps in contact with my regular vet..

http://www.ennetseeklinik.ch/de/Fach...kupunktur.html
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