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Saw this recently and really liked it...
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Old 30.08.2015, 19:57
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Re: Forever dog

So so agree- and yet. Sometimes circumstances change for tragic and totally unexpected reasons- and it is the right thing in some circumstances to find a new forever family for a pet. This could be due to severe illness for instance.

I would urge everyone with a dog, or any pet for that matter- to make solid plans for the 'if ever REAL sh*t happens'- and ensure BEFOREHAND, that you have someone trusted who could take over- just in case. As we are not getting any younger- we have already decided that we will not have another dog unless we can adopt 2 refuge dogs that get on well, with another couple- and look after each other's for holidays and promise to take over if!

Never ever agree or promise to family to do so unless you truly mean it. One of my neighbours took in her father's dog when father went into OAP home and died soon after- as they felt they had to- but didn't care or look after him- He was tied to a longish lead in the garden with an outside pen for a couple of years- and it broke our heart.
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Re: Forever dog

Odile, I hear what you are saying and of course there are times when circumstances dictate that someone needs to make tough decisions. But sometimes people get to that point really too easily...
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Re: Forever dog

... and there, I agree absolutely and massively totally- tragic, sick even.
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Re: Forever dog

This thread reminds me of an article I read in the DM. I honestly felt like I could punch this idiot of a woman in the face..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...et-lovers.html
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Re: Forever dog

If I ever meet that woman, I'll punch her so hard she'll never be able to do that again- and I won't be sorry.
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If I ever meet that woman, I'll punch her so hard she'll never be able to do that again- and I won't be sorry.
I saw that article also and wondered how the woman had the nerve to have her photograph taken looking so smug! But this is the Daily Mail we are talking about and they do tend to feature some excessively smug people with strange opinions.
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Re: Forever dog

I would ask folks not to read that DM article, as every click brings the author money.

This person obviously writes to provoke, she relies on click bait to get readers and outrage to keep her numbers up... And thus line her pockets. The best thing those concerned with animal welfare can do is to ignore her.

If interested , instead read Beverly Cuddy's comments:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/daily...beverley-cuddy

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Re: Forever dog

I honestly didn't know that! I won't give her time of day in the future.
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I would ask folks not to read that DM article, as every click brings the author money.

This person obviously writes to provoke, she relies on click bait to get readers and outrage to keep her numbers up... And thus line her pockets. The best thing those concerned with animal welfare can do is to ignore her.

If interested , instead read Beverly Cuddy's comment's:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/daily...beverley-cuddy
Thanks meloncollie...glad that I read the print edition! I had no idea that people could be so objectionable...really. It is absolutely breathtaking. She is clearly an inveterate liar. Round about the same time she supposedly adopted the dogs, she was in dire financial straits and was thinking of pulling her kids out of school. Why adopt dogs when you don't even have enough money to give your kids an education???? The only lie she probably didn't tell was that she said that she didn't think she was particularly bright! Amen to that!
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Re: Forever dog

Thanks for this post, OP.
I'm sure you didn't mean to exclude other animals, but I'm not sure if centering things on dogs is helpful. One could narrow the whole thing down to

"If I fear that my pet might ever become an inconvenience to me, I shouldn't have one."

Despite dogs having a special and strong way of bonding with their owners, rats, cats, turtles, frogs, fish, birds etc. are just as important as dogs and should receive at least some attention here.
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Thanks for this post, OP.
I'm sure you didn't mean to exclude other animals, but I'm not sure if centering things on dogs is helpful. One could narrow the whole thing down to

"If I fear that my pet might ever become an inconvenience to me, I shouldn't have one."

Despite dogs having a special and strong way of bonding with their owners, rats, cats, turtles, frogs, fish, birds etc. are just as important as dogs and should receive at least some attention here.
I agree absolutely. I guess some pets are just more photogenic than others...


But of course you are absolutely right. Any living creature that we take in and take responsibility for deserves us to carry through with the commitment that we undertake to look after and protect them.
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"If I fear that my pet might ever become an inconvenience to me, I shouldn't have one."
This is key. (All creatures great and small included.)

After 20+ years at the sharp end of rescue work I can honestly say that I have see few cases due to unavoidable circumstances. The vast majority of animals are let down by their owners because those owners fail to live up to their responsibilities. Full stop.

We have to stop pretending otherwise.

The root cause of the homeless pet problem is irresponsible pet owners. This includes both the irresponsible people who take on a pet thoughtlessly, the irresponsible people who fail to provide a pet the wherewithal to live in the human world, and the irresponsible people who give up on their pets.

Nothing will change until people realize that taking on a pet one must make a firm commitment to that animal, no matter what happens in their lives for the rest of the animal's expected lifespan.

If you can envision any circumstance where you would justify giving up a pet then it is simple: You are not ready to take on the responsibility of pet ownership at this time. Wait until you can, hand on heart, make a firm and lasting commitment, wait until you have the stability and resources to care for your pet whatever the winds of fate send your way.

As anyone reading my posts can see, I take a very hard line. While I will do my utmost to help the poor animals that come my way I'm not going to validate a pet owner reneging on his/her responsibilities.

The big picture problem is that our society is becoming more and more irresponsible, in all areas. I am often left shaking my head in wonder and exasperation - I get the impression that many today have no understanding of what the concept of commitment is - let alone what it means to make one, be it to their spouses, children, extended families, clients, employers - and yes, animals... but I suppose that is the subject for another discussion.

In the meantime, thanks for the thread, Snoopy. A pet is for life. Full stop.
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Re: Forever dog

And speaking of irresponsible pet owners... Schweizer Tierschutz just released the Tierschutzstatistik for 2014:

http://www.tierschutz.com/media/pc2015/310815.html

Every week ca. 350 animals land in a shelter, according to statistics compiled from across the 65 STS sections throughout Switzerland and Liechtenstein.

A total of 18,201 animals. More than half were owner hand-ins.

I wish I could say that I am shocked, but I'm really just numb.

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I'll say it again (and again, and again, and again, until we stop seeing numbers like these):


Before taking on the responsibility of a pet, please think carefully about your situation. Think about your financial stability, your relationships, your family plans, your existing responsibilities to others, your career possibilities. Think ahead to the expected lifespan of the animal. Ask yourself if you honestly can say, hand on heart, that you will stand by your pet no matter what may befall you and yours, under all circumstances.

If the answer is not a resounding 'yes' then you are not ready for pet ownership at this time.

Only go into pet ownership when you are truly able to make that firm commitment, for the animal's entire lifetime.
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And speaking of irresponsible pet owners... Schweizer Tierschutz just released the Tierschutzstatistik for 2014:

http://www.tierschutz.com/media/pc2015/310815.html

Every week ca. 350 animals land in a shelter, according to statistics compiled from across the 65 STS sections throughout Switzerland and Liechtenstein.

A total of 18,201 animals. More than half were owner hand-ins.

I wish I could say that I am shocked, but I'm really just numb.

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I'll say it again (and again, and again, and again, until we stop seeing numbers like these):


Before taking on the responsibility of a pet, please think carefully about your situation. Think about your financial stability, your relationships, your family plans, your existing responsibilities to others, your career possibilities. Think ahead to the expected lifespan of the animal. Ask yourself if you honestly can say, hand on heart, that you will stand by your pet no matter what may befall you and yours, under all circumstances.

If the answer is not a resounding 'yes' then you are not ready for pet ownership at this time.

Only go into pet ownership when you are truly able to make that firm commitment, for the animal's entire lifetime.
About 60% of the animals were cats in 2014. Only every tenth cat was wearing a microchip.
If you want to commit to your cats, get them chipped just like dogs. There's no harm in doing so, it helps the search for them in case they're lost or their return to the owner in case of an accident or theft. I don't understand why people don't get their cats chipped?

A vet's opinion on chipping (German). He mentions that, in November, vet fees are often reduced for the chipping procedure.

70-100 CHF well spent in my opinion.

Especially as some **** in Thurgau tore two kittens' heads off... (link)

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