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SKN in Basel-Stadt

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It seems I need proof of dogtastic's attendance at hundeschule before the end of February. I'm sure Basel-Stadt will scoff at dogtastic's existing academic record from the US, and so I will have to fork out many CHFs for her revision courses here in Basel. Since her German is even worse than mine, does anyone know a Basel hundeschule that does lessons in English?

The letter from the canton says that "new" dog owners have to do a theory course. I'm guessing "new" means "not having had a dog in CH in the past". So I probably have to do that too. Anyone tried this one? http://wholetthedogsout-basel.ch/en/

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Re: SKN in Basel-Stadt

The database of SKN certified trainers (remember, only officially approved trainers can do the SKN courses) can be found here:
http://blv.bytix.com/plus/trainer/

You can search by PLZ or area.


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Anyone tried this one? http://wholetthedogsout-basel.ch/en/
I don't know this school - but I see that they link to John Bradshaw's 'In Defense Of Dogs', an important work in the canine behavior science canon, and a book I believe every dog owner must read. So they win serious points from me for that.

Obviously you will need to do your own due diligence - just give them a call, chat about training philosophy, make sure their ideas mesh with yours. Ask if you can attend a trial session - good trainers allow this as they know the 'fit' must be right.


Another SKN program in the greater Basel area that is well thought of is through TBB:
http://www.tbb.ch/index.php?id=260

Tierschutz Beider Basel, a shelter, does a lot of community programs, by the way. No idea if English is possible, though.

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And just a point - don't think of the SKN as 'revision' courses.

The SKN isn't really a training course in the sense you might expect, rather it is an introduction to to Swiss society's attitudes and expectations of dog owners. It is superficial, there is only so much you can realistically do in a mandatory one-size-fits-all course. But worthwhile nonetheless - I've done it three times now (with each new addition) and learned something new each time, despite my 20+ years of living with mutts.

Most Swiss dog owners go well beyond the SKN courses, regularly attending a Hundeschule or Hundeverein, or participating in dog sports.

The good news is that the SKN courses are not expensive - usually under CHF 200.

Hope you find a course that is a good fit for you and your doglet.
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Re: SKN in Basel-Stadt

If you'd like to do the theory part of the course online the only approved one in English is available here:

http://sachkundenachweis-hundehalter...og-owners.html

Of course, you'll still need to find a trainer for the practical part.
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Hello all,

It seems I need proof of dogtastic's attendance at hundeschule before the end of February. I'm sure Basel-Stadt will scoff at dogtastic's existing academic record from the US, and so I will have to fork out many CHFs for her revision courses here in Basel. Since her German is even worse than mine, does anyone know a Basel hundeschule that does lessons in English?

The letter from the canton says that "new" dog owners have to do a theory course. I'm guessing "new" means "not having had a dog in CH in the past". So I probably have to do that too. Anyone tried this one? http://wholetthedogsout-basel.ch/en/

Thanks!
We are with WLTDO and Claudia is very good and fluent in English.

We did SKN theory with her and are now doing the practical, which is more her helping with any problem areas.

The cheaper SKN courses are all done in German/Swiss as to make them pay they are taken in a group.

Give a call or send an sms, as she's quite busy.
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Re: SKN in Basel-Stadt

Hey, so even if I have my dog since 3 years and we are here since a bit over one, they are forcing me to take the course.

What am I going to learn in these classes exactly? Are they training us and our dogs to basic commands?

That would be at least the good part as my chihuahua (that is smaller than a normal size cat) is stubborn and a bit daft I'm afraid.

At least she is cute...
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Hey, so even if I have my dog since 3 years and we are here since a bit over one, they are forcing me to take the course.
The SKN is not only for expats but also for Swiss citizens, even when they have dogs for 20+ years, and are working dog handlers.

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Hey, so even if I have my dog since 3 years and we are here since a bit over one, they are forcing me to take the course.

What am I going to learn in these classes exactly? Are they training us and our dogs to basic commands?

That would be at least the good part as my chihuahua (that is smaller than a normal size cat) is stubborn and a bit daft I'm afraid.

At least she is cute...
About "What am I going to learn in these classes exactly?" Good question.
We did the practical course with one of our dogs; he got a prize at the end for being "best in class".
Only problems is after the class we dare not let him off his lead! If we do he is gone, out of sight in seconds!
Usually he does return in two to four hours


I believe the people and courses are well meant but every dog is an individual and the courses are not in any way tailored to individuals.
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Re: SKN in Basel-Stadt

The SKN is only the beginning; it really is more about 'What are my responsibilities as a dog owner in Switzerland and in (canton/Gemeinde), what are the basic things I need to know to start my dog on the right road?'. While the course can indeed be tailored to individuals it is based on mandatory content to ensure that all dog owners hear the same message.

My trainer certainly tailors the class - each of the three times I have taken it there has been a different slant, the mandatory content is incorporated in different ways based on the age, character, and training levels of the dogs and on the experience of owners in the class.

But each trainer will structure his/her class his/her own way. This is why it is so important to find a trainer you feel comfortable with, whose methods and philosophy are a good fit with yours, whose teaching style works with your needs. Always ask for a trial lesson before making a commitment to a course - either the SKN or more advanced courses.

I would hope that all dog owners go well beyond the SKN. The 2 Theory and 5 Practical sessions can only scratch the surface. An owner needs to put in much, much more time building trust, building confidence, working on the partnership between owner and dog - either in a formal class setting or on one's own.

I prefer classes (Familienhund, various sports) as in addition to learning, in addition to the fun activities, I feel this is the best opportunity for socialization for my (fruitbat) dogs. I like the support the class members give one another, and I like the opportunity to discuss current thinking in canine behavioral science.

One can train to the same level, work to the same depth on one's own if you have the motivation. No good training class trains your dog - rather, a good trainer works with you so that you learn how to train your dog.

But make no mistake - the SKN is only the beginning. Training is a life long effort - for both you and your dog.

And remember - if my dog's recall is not reliable and instant... I have work to do.
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