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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Not just me (our dogs came from UK, and one from UK via a few years in Spain) - but all dogs. Perhaps due to very close proximity to France?


Just shows how things change from one area to another. I do not know of any dog owner here who has ever done the SKN course either.
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Old 15.01.2016, 17:42
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

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Not just me (our dogs came from UK, and one from UK via a few years in Spain) - but all dogs. Perhaps due to very close proximity to France?


Just shows how things change from one area to another. I do not know of any dog owner here who has ever done the SKN course either.
Do you have a link to a Gemeinde or cantonal requirement for vaccination for dogs who have never left Switzerland? As per my previous link, there is no federal requirement, and I couldn't find anything in cantonal regs for JU, NE or BE (I couldn't remember where you are...) but my French is atrocious. I'd be very interested, as health regs generally fall under federal jurisdiction.

(Not doubting you at all, but as I sometimes liase with shelters in these cantons this is something I'd like to clarify.)

The SKN issue is clearly one of local attitudes towards enforcement, as federal law is crystal clear. The federal law explicitly puts the onus on the dog owner to comply. Penalties were not written into the law but (naively) it was left to the honor system. Local officials may assess penalties for non compliance, however, as seen in the Tierschutzstraffälle databse. If your local officials are turning a blind eye, I am not surprised that few have done the courses.

Not the first time that we have seen that laws are ignored or enforced selectively - in all walks of Swiss life.

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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

No indication of what vacs are 'expected' or required- I just hand in his pet passport. Will ask when I go.

70CHF per dog- and for guard dog in isolated places, 50 CHF for first one then 70CHF. The flyer says that if people have not come to register and pay by end of Feb- an employee will be despatched to visit dog owners to request payment, and add an administration fee for this (sum unknown- for the first time). The nearest farmer to us never registers and has never paid either!
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No indication of what vacs are 'expected' or required- I just hand in his pet passport. Will ask when I go.
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I'd be very grateful if you did.

If communities are imposing vac requirements above and beyond federal law that means that this is something that one would want to check for any potential adoptive family if the dog in question can no longer be vaccinated. Obviously such a dog couldn't live in a community where this were required, unless there is a medical exemption available.

I've not come across this before, hence my concern.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...nbank-26575764


Sorry, it is in German. Seems the new database has a lot of bugs!
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Have any of you who are listed in the Database as 'Halter' rather than 'Besitzer' received your AMICUS Pet Card yet?

I've just received one for Hooligan, but not for Heffalump or the Belltie.

Perhaps coincidentally, but Hooligan's letter points out that I am registered as her owner. I wonder if that might be why I have not received cards for the other two, as I am not their owner, only their Halter? (Ownership remains with the Rescues.)

Of course I can, and will, send off a mail to AMICUS with this question, but replies seem to be taking a few weeks so I thought of asking here before opening an inquiry ticket...

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By the way, apparently the sticker included in the letter needs to be placed on page 46 of the Pet Passport.
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Old 04.02.2016, 16:12
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

No, no letter for me yet. Lily's off to the vet later this month for her yearly check up so I'll ask then.
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By the way, apparently the sticker included in the letter needs to be placed on page 46 of the Pet Passport.
I copied that off the AMICUS letter - and now have just had a look at the mutts' Passports.

The Belltie and Heffalump, both Eidgenoss have passports of 32 pages.
Hooligan, who hails from der Grosser Kanton, has a German passport of 24 pages.

So... I'm guessing the instruction to place the sticker on page 46 might refer to the new format that came into being last year.

Do any of you have the new format, and can you confirm that there is a page 46?

And, what is on that page, so that those of us with older/other country passports can do the best we can to comply?

Again, many thanks.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Dear Sir

Thaank you for the information which is extremelly helpfull.
Do you know if cats have to be registered in Switzerland as we will be getting a couple in the next couple of months.

Thanks so much.
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Old 04.02.2016, 20:09
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

No, unlike dogs, cats are not yet required under Swiss law to be registered.

However, I would strongly suggest that you do so, especially if your cats will go outside.

The cantonal Reporting site makes for heartbreaking reading... cats lost or stolen, cats found but who will never get back to their owners, cats found dead on the road and the owners will never learn what happened to their pet. And then there are the cats euthanized because no owner could be found to claim them.

All avoidable if the owners had thought to chip and register their cats. Chipping and registration is protection for your cat.

Cats are registered in the ANIS database (www.anis.ch), not this new AMICUS database that we are discussing in this thread. AMICUS is for registration of dogs only, and is indeed federal law.

By the way, while Swiss law does not yet mandate chipping and registration of cats, some breeders and many rescues require you to chip and register your cat as a condition of sale or adoption. Make sure you understand your contract.

All the best to you and your future feline friends.

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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Just a note for folks who moved their docked/cropped dog with the family, under the exception to the docking/cropping ban:

Under the 'Speziale Merkmalle' section, the new database lists whether your dog is docked/cropped, the reason, and whether this was from birth or not. This bit needs to be filled out by your veterinarian.

So check your entry, if it is not up to date speak to your vet.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Just a note to check your account under 'Halterkurs'. Speak to your Gemeinde about filling out your SKN data if yours is one who keeps that information. If not, speak to your trainer.

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I was a tad sad to see that only my three current dogs are listed. The Muttley Crew Past are no longer enshrined in official memory.
Browsing today I see that the Muttley Crew Past are indeed still enshrined in official memory. Click on 'Verstorbene Tiere', the details are now there. Don't know why, but that makes me feel better.
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Have any of you who are listed in the Database as 'Halter' rather than 'Besitzer' received your AMICUS Pet Card yet?
Pet card mystery solved.

You have to order the card. Go into your account, under "eigene Tiere' click on the details button. You will see "Hunde-Identitätskarte (Pet-ID) bestellen. Click on that, nothing more to do, the card will be sent to you.

Apparently I must have clicked through that section when I was browsing through my account, getting familiar with the system. I've now ordered The Belltie's and Heffalump's cards, they came in the mail a few days later.

It was pure coincidence that I first clicked Hooligan's details, issuing the card has nothing to do with Halter vs Besitzer status. The letter is a form letter, all my dogs' say the same thing.

Still haven't heard back from Amicus about the page 46 thing, though...

Anyone with the new Pet Passport format? If so, do you have a page 46, and what is on it?
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Just back from the vet.

When we moved here in 2007, our vet in Kt Bern registered and microchipped Lily in anis. He is the vet in the amicus data base.

I asked at our current vet if it's necessary/possible to change the vet in the entry, and our vet's office called the amicus help desk.

The answer is no. The vet in the database remains the vet who entered the dog in the first place and/or chipped the dog (not sure which one takes precedence.)

In other news, Lily, despite being 11.5 years old seems to be in remarkably good health (unless her blood work tells another story).
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I asked at our current vet if it's necessary/possible to change the vet in the entry, and our vet's office called the amicus help desk.

The answer is no. The vet in the database remains the vet who entered the dog in the first place and/or chipped the dog (not sure which one takes precedence.)


None of the vets who chipped my dog are my vets; they were all chipped by first owners or by shelters. I, too, had hoped that I could change the entry to my current vets, but was also told no.

(This bothers me a bit, probably because I had hoped that the vet entry would serve a different function. I had hoped that, doG forbid one of mine were to get lost, that contacting the vet's office would serve as a safety net for the dog - especially as all mine are on daily meds, my vets could inform a finder. Ah well...)

Alas that is not the official function - the vet entry is for traceability of the ownership/entry chain, to establish that the dog is legal in Switzerland. OK, I understand, afterall the primary function of the database is combating illegal importation. Getting our pets home safely is actually an afterthought sort of benefit.

Interesting though that for my dogs who were chipped by vets outside Switzerland the listings are the Swiss vets who registered them for me after I imported them, not the foreign vet who chipped them. I have the foreign vet information from when I adopted the dogs, but apparently that cannot be added either - which makes little sense if traceability and combatting illegal importation truly is the goal.


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In other news, Lily, despite being 11.5 years old seems to be in remarkably good health (unless her blood work tells another story).
Very glad to hear it - paws crossed the blood work says the same thing.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

The vet said chipped/registered, but I think registration is key here.



Lily thanks you. She's having a post vet visit anti-stress nap.
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