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Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Very important information for dog owners - obligatory database registration will be switched from ANIS to AMICUS.

See the BLV website:

http://www.blv.admin.ch/themen/tiers...x.html?lang=de

Click on 'Mediamitteillung' for contact info in case of questions.

(So if you are looking at an old post, please replace the ANIS.ch address mentioned with the new one, AMICUS.ch )

As of 1.1. 2016 the ANIS database will only be for registration of cats and other small pets. Dogs must now be registered in a new database, AMICUS.

See here:

https://www.amicus.ch/Account/Login

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Current dog entries to ANIS will be transported to the new database. It is recommended that you log in to the new system and check all your data.


If you are registering your dog after this date, please ensure that the folks at your Gemeinde and vet know of the change - sometimes information does not disperse as quickly as it should.
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Old 13.01.2016, 17:53
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Many thanks Meloncollie - I will take a look at the website to ensure that Rookie and Lilly remain part of "The Hall of Fame"!
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Possibly a stupid question, but is this something the Gemeinde would have done when we registered our dog with them?


Or is it something WE should have done separately? Thanks in advance.


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Possibly a stupid question, but is this something the Gemeinde would have done when we registered our dog with them?


Or is it something WE should have done separately? Thanks in advance.


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When did you register your dog?

In the old system, the Gemeinde registration was usually a separate step from registration in ANIS. (I say usually because YMMV seems to be the norm here...)

ANIS registration required your vet's input, you would have had him do the entry for you and later you would have received a letter from ANIS with your account number and PIN code.

If you are already registered in ANIS your data will be automatically imported, you don't officially have to do anything, but IMO you should check it.

If you are not registered in ANIS, you will need to register in AMICUS - see your vet.

I am not yet sure how everything will play out in this new system, will post more as I learn more.

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Interesting that I only learned about this change from a mail from MEIKO, the pet store, to their registered customers. (Kudos to Meiko.) Had it not been for them I would have missed this major change. I do hope the word gets spread effectively.



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Rufus, from the AMICUS site, here is a flow chart of the new registration system:

https://www.amicus.ch/Content/News/P...rhalter_DE.pdf
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Thanks for the info. We registered her last June - and we very carefully made sure we understood from them exactly what we had to do - and after doing that the lady said "all done."




We've taken her to the vet a few times (worming etc for pet passport) but nothing was mentioned. So what does AMIS /AMICUS do? Is it an animal database?


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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

ANIS is was the federal database, it's actually this one that is required by law.

It may be that the Gemeinde person did it for you... but IME that would have been odd, as ANIS required a vet to do the registration.

If you were registered in ANIS you should have received a letter with a yellow circle as a logo, attached to the letter should have been a card with your account number and PIN. If you did not receive this letter you might not be registered... but then, I had to chase down one of my mutts' letter as there was an update confusion. So anything could have happened.

What I would do in your shoes is ask your vet to check your registration.

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By the way, I just tried to log on to AMICUS with my ANIS account number as the Personnel-ID and my ANIS PIN as the password, as I would in the old system. My reading of the new site was that these should transfer... but login failed. Whether I will receive new login info, or whether this is a glitch, don't know. I have written the AMICUS folks, will see what they say.

Watch this space.
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ANIS is was the federal database, it's actually this one that is required by law.

It may be that the Gemeinde person did it for you... but IME that would have been odd, as ANIS required a vet to do the registration.

If you were registered in ANIS you should have received a letter with a yellow circle as a logo, attached to the letter should have been a card with your account number and PIN. If you did not receive this letter you might not be registered... but then, I had to chase down one of my mutts' letter as there was an update confusion. So anything could have happened.

What I would do in your shoes is ask your vet to check your registration.

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By the way, I just tried to log on to AMICUS with my ANIS account number as the Personnel-ID and my ANIS PIN as the password, as I would in the old system. My reading of the new site was that these should transfer... but login failed. Whether I will receive new login info, or whether this is a glitch, don't know. I have written the AMICUS folks, will see what they say.

Watch this space.

Thank you Meloncollie. I'll ask the Gemeinde and ring the vet tomorrow.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

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By the way, I just tried to log on to AMICUS with my ANIS account number as the Personnel-ID and my ANIS PIN as the password, as I would in the old system. My reading of the new site was that these should transfer... but login failed. Whether I will receive new login info, or whether this is a glitch, don't know. I have written the AMICUS folks, will see what they say.

Watch this space.
I have just loggend in using my ANIS login info and it worked fine. My only complaint is that they have me down as 'männlich' and not 'weiblich' . I Know I was a tomboy when young but how did they know that!

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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

D'oh

Login problem solved. Drop the initial letter from the ANIS account ID, just use the numbers.


Holy moly, there's a lot of info in the new system. Click on 'details'... the history of the microchip number is there - and I now know who the previous owners were of my mutts who came through the Swiss system. Interesting...

I'm happy to see that there is now an entry for 'Halterkurs' - that is, the SKN classes. The field is blank in my entry, as that data was not in the ANIS system - I'll have to see if I can add the dates when I did the classes, or if that has to be done by the trainer...

(So folks, if you haven't done the required SKN courses... best put that on top of your 'to do' list. )

There are also fields recording change of ownership if you give your dog away. Your entry will show who you passed the dog on to.

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I was a tad sad to see that only my three current dogs are listed. The Muttley Crew Past are no longer enshrined in official memory.


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By the way, there is a handbook for dog owners explaining the new system, here:

https://www.amicus.ch/Content/News/H...ehalter_DE.pdf
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

It's worth pointing out one of the reasons for the change stated in the BLV press release, as linked in the 'Mediamitteillung: Registrierung und lückenlose Rückverfolgbarkeit zum Schutz von Hund und Mensch' in the previous post:

http://www.blv.admin.ch/themen/tiers...x.html?lang=de

Die moderne nationale Datenbank www.amicus.ch schafft weiterhin die Voraussetzungen für eine qualitativ hochstehende Registrierung eines jeden Hundes in der Schweiz. Eine lückenlose Rückverfolgbarkeit der Hunde gewährleistet, dass illegale Importe von zu jungen und kranken Hunden aufgedeckt und verhindert werden können. Zudem bietet sie die Grundlage für das wieder Auffinden von ausgesetzten sowie entlaufenen Hunden und erlaubt das ungehinderte Reisen mit Hunden.

Von zwei Hunden wird zurzeit einer aus dem Ausland importiert, leider häufig auf illegalem Weg. Die Verlockung, auf einfache Weise viel Geld zu verdienen, verleitet skrupellose Verkäufer dazu, zu junge, zu früh von der Mutterhündin getrennte, schlecht sozialisierte und häufig kranke Welpen zu verkaufen.
Einige der Welpen kommen aus Regionen oder Ländern, wo die Tollwut verbreitet ist. Wenn diese Welpen nicht oder schlecht geimpft sind, laufen wir Gefahr, diese schreckliche Krankheit wieder in die Schweiz einzuschleppen.


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The modern national database www.amicus.ch further sets the stage for a high-quality registry of every dog in Switzerland. Complete traceability of dogs ensures that illegal imports of dogs who are too young and dogs who are sick can be discovered and prevented. It also provides the wherewithal to find abandoned and runaway dogs and allows unimpeded travel with dogs.

One out of two dogs is currently imported from abroad, unfortunately often illegally. The lure to earn a lot of money easily entices unscrupulous sellers to bring in puppies for sale who are too young, prematurely separated from their mothers, poorly socialized and often sick.

Some of the puppies come from regions or countries where rabies is common. When these puppies are not vaccinated or incompletely vaccinated, we run the risk of bringing this terrible disease back to Switzerland.


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Illegal import of puppies and dogs into Switzerland is a growing problem, one that should concern all dog lovers. The situation today is worrisome to say the least. The dog traders, Hundemafia, battery farmers are active in Switzerland - and it is not always clear who is legit and who is one of these vile barstewards.

As I have posted many times on EF, I have adopted several of my dogs from abroad. There is nothing wrong with adopting or purchasing abroad, certainly. When the dog who is right for you is in need of a good home to me it matters not where the dog comes from.

But eyes open, and be sure you understand exactly what you are getting into. Be sure you have the ability - financial, emotional, practical - to give this dog a forever home with you, no matter what.

If you are interested in adopting from abroad, please do so the correct way. I find it best to go to the country the dog is in, meet and spend time with the dog yourself, meet and assess the breeder or rescue. And of course, make sure that all the necessary steps are taken to bring the dog into Switzerland legally.

There are several established reputable rescues in Switzerland who partner with rescues abroad, by the way. This is another route to consider for those concerned with the plight of dogs in other countries.

Remember that a private person may only import a dog definitively, as his own dog. Importing a dog to later give away is forbidden for private persons. To do so commercial rules apply.

I'm pleased to see that the new system will include more traceability. Hopefully this will help to stem the tide of illegal imports - and the heartbreak that all too often goes with this awful trade.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

meloncollie, thank you for starting this thread.

I have logged in successfully and my dog's data seems correct.

However, as a very, very old dog owner, I might also overlook something... namely, according to the database I was born on 1.10.1900

Do you guys know how to change personal data? If so, please help this ancient lady here. The only data I am able to change are phone number, email and language.

So it is just me or these personal details can't be changed? I can understand that I am not allowed to change my birthday, but it seems weird that I am also not allowed to change my address?!
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

I have a bit of a problem here, I can't remember my old ANIS login and can't seem to see a recovery option on Amicus or even a registration?
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

You could try the amicus help desk - info@amicus.ch 0848 700 100


If you have the old anis registration sheet, there is an account number and pin - that worked for me.

My data are ok....just the old vet from before we moved - need to change that. And i was also born in 1900! As if.
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Do you guys know how to change personal data? If so, please help this ancient lady here. The only data I am able to change are phone number, email and language.

So it is just me or these personal details can't be changed? I can understand that I am not allowed to change my birthday, but it seems weird that I am also not allowed to change my address?!

I am apparently a similarly ancient lady.

From the handbook for dog owners, ( https://www.amicus.ch/Content/News/H...ehalter_DE.pdf ) it seems that one can change the telephone number, email address, and language one's self.

From the note under 'Lieber Hundehalter' on the AMICUS start page:
"Wenn Sie Ihre Personendaten oder Adresse ändern wollen, wenden Sie sich an die Gemeinde. Möchten Sie Hundedaten ändern, wenden Sie sich bitte an den Tierarzt."

If you wish to change your personal data or address, contact the Gemeinde.

If you wish to chang your dog's data, contact your veterinarian'.

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Browsing a bit through the Handbuch für Hundehalter, a few points:


It looks like you can change the Tierdetail fields yourself, but the Grunddaten can only be changed by a vet. I have not tried to change mine yet, not wanting to mess around with the system until I understand it a bit better.

But it looks like you can change the color, sex, and date of death yourself. This will be a bit easier for all of us, as any of you who have had to make the sad call to report a death will know.

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If you give your dog away you have to provide info on the person (or institution) you are passing the dog onto, according to the handbook you can do this yourself. Again, I have not tried. (Nor will I ever - my dogs are for life! ) This is in the 'Exportieren'* or Weitergeben' fields. Note there are different fields depending on whether the dogs is being exported or passed on to a person (or institution) in Switzerland.

HOWEVER - when passing on the dog in Switzerland, it appears that the person to whom the dogs is being given must already have a Personnel-ID.

I will be interested to see how this will work in practice. But given some of the threads we have seen lately, EFers should take note.

ETA:

* Speaking of exporting your dog... I wonder if moving away from Switzerland with your dog would require the owner to fill out this field, obviously with one's own name. Or will the Gemeinde do this as part of de-registration? Will check into that.

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A new feature is that you can list a holiday address - which will come in handy for those who travel with your dogs. doG forbid your pooch goes astray while you are traveling, at least if found you can be reachable. Something to think about keeping up to date.

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I see there is also a field for the veterinarian. My entries show the veterinarian who (presumably, as this is the case with Hooligan who I imported and with the others the locations make sense given what I know about my dogs' past lives) originally did the registration.

From a traceability standpoint (which seems to be the primary goal of the database) that might make sense, but I wonder whether having my current vet listed is possible. My goal is of course my dogs' welfare - and doG forbid one were to get lost I'd prefer that a call went into my vet, rather a vet cantons away who hasn't seen the dog in more than a decade. But I'm not sure what the field is used for, will have to try to find out more.

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If your dog is officially certified to do various jobs you can add that information. I would assume that official certification/passing the various tests is required, otherwise I could claim that Heffalump the Brainless is a Rettungshund when the only thing he would or could ever rescue is his squeeky toy. Will look into this further.

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You can also order a 'Hund-Identitätskarte'. Not quite sure what that will bring me that the passport doesn't but will look into that and report later.

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Here's a pretty decent diagram of who (dog owner, Gemeinde, Kanton, Trainer, Police, Veterinarian, etc. ) does what in the new system:

https://www.amicus.ch/Content/News/P...ht_alle_DE.pdf

Taking my soap box issue, for instance: The Gemeinde and Kanton add in the Halterkurs info. So EFers - check with your Gemeinde as to how you need to report your course completion


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Lots to learn, will update as I learn more - and please do the same, fellow dog owners.

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I have a bit of a problem here, I can't remember my old ANIS login and can't seem to see a recovery option on Amicus or even a registration?
I agree with Edot, contact AMICUS in the first instance.

You might also contact ANIS - the database still exists (for cats and other pets), and my personal details are still there, although the dog entries are blank. I would guess that because my personal details are still there yours would be too - ANIS should be able to search. At least it's worth a try.
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

We're due for a yearly checkup at the vet this month so I'll ask about the changes

I wonder how they'll handle people who haven't had to take a course (we were here prior to 2008). I know when i registered Lily after we moved to Winterthur, i was asked about the course, but the person registering noted I wasn't required.
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I wonder how they'll handle people who haven't had to take a course (we were here prior to 2008). I know when i registered Lily after we moved to Winterthur, i was asked about the course, but the person registering noted I wasn't required.
Good question.

Previously one could see in ANIS that one had a dog registered prior to 1 Sept 2008, so no worries.

But now that the data for dogs who have died has been cleared (at least mine has been), thinking about the person who had dogs previously registered but no longer has one now - would that info have been transferred, does that person have an account in AMICUS even if the dog data is blank? Would that person appear as a 'first time owner' in AMICUS wrt the SKN Theory issue?
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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

Must say I do wonder how up to date records are. Our Gatsby is still registered with our friends in Valais, and she was put to sleep last Spring. And Slinky is registered with the Commune and his fee paid for, but I never registered him with Anibis.

We had a flyer today from Commune reminding us to pay fees by end of month- and that vaccination schedule is required, but nothing else.
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Must say I do wonder how up to date records are. Our Gatsby is still registered with our friends in Valais, and she was put to sleep last Spring. And Slinky is registered with the Commune and his fee paid for, but I never registered him with Anibis.

We had a flyer today from Commune reminding us to pay fees by end of month- and that vaccination schedule is required, but nothing else.

Registration in the national database (ANIS, and now AMICUS) has been federal law since 2006.

ETA: But ANIS registration has been available from some years before that, as mine who died before 2006 were registered. But IIRC they were not registered upon our arrival in 1998, I seem to think it was a few years later.

This is where the federal, cantonal, Gemeinde split of responsibilities, not to mention the dependency on the attitude of individual officials, means that there has been little consistency in implementation.

As we have seen reported on EF numerous times, dog owners' experiences - and the hoops we are asked to jump through - has varied widely, perhaps because of the approach of the folks who are in a position to check.

My Gemeinde required a copy of my ANIS registration in order to complete the Gemeinde registration, as well as a copy of my proof of liablilty insurance cover and a copy of my SKN certificate.

And my vets checked the ANIS registration (back when it could be done by transfer form from the shelter) or did the registration themselves at our first visit with each new dog.

So in my case not being registered with ANIS would have been easily flagged. But not all Gemeinden, vets, or Powers That Be work in the same way.


I would chase this down with your Vet and Gemeinde, Odile.

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Re: Important Info for Dog Owners: Change to Obligatory Registration Procedures

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vaccination schedule is required, but nothing else.
You are being asked for a vaccination schedule? Interesting...

FYI, it is not a federal requirement that a dog in Switzerland be vaccinated against rabies, only that a dog entering (or re-entering) Switzerland has a valid vaccination, checkable at the border.

I have had to let Hooligan's and the Belltie's vacs lapse due to contraindicated illnesses. They obviously cannot cross most borders (one of the reason I am still here ) or re-enter Switzerland once having left (which is why I haven't been on holiday in years), but are perfectly legal to stay as is throughout Switzerland. See: http://www.blv.admin.ch/ivi/01739/01...x.html?lang=de )

Of course private parties such as training schools, shelters or kennels, sports clubs may require vaccination for many different diseases (rabies, KC, etc.) in order for one to participate.


Hopping on my soap box:

Federal requirement notwithstanding, healthy dogs should be vaccinated against all diseases that you and your veterinarian deem appropriate. And as the owner of compromised dogs who can no longer be vaccinated, I am grateful to all of you who do vaccinate, promoting herd immunity.
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