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Hi, I'm new to this forum and need to find a dog trainer who speaks English or French.

I have a small 5-year old dog with social problems (he does not like other dogs, especially big ones - I can basically control his behavior, but that involves avoiding a lot of activities I would love for him to be able to do). Meaning this isn't a case where he poses immediate danger to other animals, but simply a case where I would like for him to have a fuller life.

I have been in contact with a trainer near Bern - but she rejected giving him classes because he isn't neutered. Based on my research, I found that neutering can help in cases of animal aggression if it is done in puppyhood but that it does not reduce the behaviour if it is fear-based (which I am almost positive is at the root of his problems). I have no problem with neutering, I am informed on the subject and made the decision not to have my pet neutered for several reasons pointed out by several vets (he's a special case), so I would appreciate it if this didn't turn into a discussion on neutering - I only mentioned it because I want to know if it is normal for dog trainers here to reject pupils based on this factor.

I am also in the process of finding an English-speaking vet in the area (I formerly went to one in Zurich, who sent me to the trainer who basically rejected my dog before she even gave him a chance). It's not viable for me to drive 2 hours every time he needs to see a vet, so I want somebody closer to home. Any help on any of these points would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: English or French-speaking dog trainer near Bern

Here's a list of Vieta members - it looks like three of them are in KT Bern, although I'm not sure if close enough to you. I'm afraid I don't have any personal experience of these folks, but I found the list while searching for an APDT-like umbrella organization of trainers here. Seems worth investigating.

http://www.vieta.ch/beraterliste.htm

I'm a big fan of clicker training, having seen it work in so many situations. Clicker training is a positive way to use classical conditioning to motivate your dog and shape behaviors - have you looked into that approach? For instance,

http://www.clicker.ch/semi.html

Although this group is in Biberist, they hold a seminar in Aarwagen Be - is that anywhere near you?

(Their site has a good write-up of clicker basics in English

Also, try the SKG:

http://www.hundeweb.org.

Click on 'Erziehungskurse' for a list of SKG member schools in KT Bern.

I have found that trainers and behaviorists here vary widely in outlook and practice. I have met some very good trainers here, and some absolute numpties whom I would not let within 10 km of my mutts. You should have a long, detailed talk with anyone you are considering working with - make sure he/she has solid experience with dogs similar to yours, knows the technical and practical side of training, and - most importantly - follows ideas and methods you agree with. And - although this should be a given, it sometimes sadly isn't - make sure the person you work with actually likes dogs and appreciates them as pets and not just as breed stock or something to win rosettes with.

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One of the most respected behaviorists specializing in aggression issues is Angela Stockdale - she is based in the UK so a visit may not be possible for you, but her website is full of good ideas. You could write to her for advise:

http://www.dogpartnership.co.uk/

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And while you are searching, can I recommend some very good books which might help you and your dog?

Jean Donaldson - 'The Culture Clash'

Pat Miller - 'The Power of Positive Dog Training'

Karen Pryor - 'Clicker Training for Dogs' and 'Don't Shoot the Dog'

Brenda Aloff - 'Canine Body Language, a Photographic Guide' and 'Aggression in Dogs - Practical Management, Prevention and Behaviour Modification'

Turid Rugaas -'Calming Signals'

All well respected trainers and behaviorists.

I would also recommend trying TTouch with your dog - this isn't a training method, but rather a way of calming your dog and communicating with him, which greatly adds, IMO, to training success. I found this to be a valuable tool when working with my traumatized collie - TTouch helped break through his barriers so that he could be receptive to training and desensitization, and I continued to use it as a safety signal when we encountered a high stress situation. For info on TTouch:

http://www.lindatellington-jones.com/whyTTouch.shtml

(The website and philosophy is a bit too 'new-agey' for my taste, which led me to be very skeptical at first - but to my surprise the technique did indeed work for us. )

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I am a strong proponent of positive reward based training, especially when helping a dog to overcome fear-based behaviors (aggression and socialization issues are often a response to fear). I firmly believe that punishiment/dominance theory/militaristic training can do serious damage to a dog, even more so when dealing with rehabilitation issues. I would be very careful of any trainer who suggests this kind of approach for your dog.


If you are looking for private training then the fact that your dog isn't neutered should not be an issue. It could be a problem in some group courses, though.

I'm not in BE, so I don't know of a vet in your area, but I'll ask my vet (in ZH) if he can recommend someone and get back to you.

Good luck with your search, and with your dog. I'm sure you'll be able to work this out.

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Re: English or French-speaking dog trainer near Bern

Wow, thank you so much for the thorough response.

I will look into all of those sites you mentioned, and will try to get a hold of a few of those books too.

As for the vet, I actually found an English-speaking one near my house. I'm going there today to see if he's any good.

Thanks again!!
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