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Old 07.04.2010, 20:38
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Walking down the street this afternoon there was a parked station wagon whose alarm kept beeping off every few minutes. No owner in sight and nobody interfering with the car but in the back was a black labrador doing it's best to look dignified.
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Old 07.04.2010, 20:45
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Saw this in the car park of a Sainsburys in Cricklewood, London. Blistering hot day, boxer was in the back of the car looking worse for wear. I hung around the car for a while, then used a can of beans to "get inside" and left a broken open bottle of evian so he could have a drink. Was a nice Mercedes as well, but then it always seems to be.
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BTW - anyone know what to do if you see a dog left in a car in hot weather? I presume its reportable to the police and that they will act?
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Old 09.04.2010, 20:18
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We tried that once with our little camel, didn't last for 5 minutes then we saw him galloping by - he had simply jumped through the protecting net in the boot and then out the window must have been painful for him but there was no way he would stay in the car with us gone, no sir!
That's why the safety bars I have in the back are wired up to a small battery (just like the electric fences) so everytime he tries to get through he gets a little shock, keeps him in the boot pretty well

only joking (before you guys assasinate me for cruelty) I just have a sturdy pair of bars fixed in the boot, stops him from getting through!
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Re: Dogs in Cars

We use such equipment for trips and are very happy.
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Rinale..what sort of harness is that?
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Re: Dogs in Cars

Sooo I am looking after these lovely dogs again for the next couple of weeks.. and still feel a little vague about whats allowed!

Will it definitely be okay if I attach their harnesses to the seatbelts?
And if there is a passenger in the car (me) to keep them from distracting the driver?

They are big dogs, so will definitely be noticed if we happen to drive past any police.. and we reallyy can't afford any more fines or problems!

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Rinale..what sort of harness is that?
This is dogs seat belt. I bought this harness in FRESSNAPF Dietikon . Ask as a seat belt for a dog, they differ (depending on dogs weight).
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Hi! Anyone know how to "legally" transport your dog in the car? I know no lap, but in a crate and/or somehow seat belted? Front seat (passenger side)? Back seat only? Don't want a ticket!!!! Any advice welcome!
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Old 27.02.2011, 12:37
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Re: Dogs in Cars

Our (large) dog travels in the back of my car unrestrained, apart from a very thick/strong hammock (bought from RAC in UK) that covers the back seat and back rests and hooks onto the head rests- we bring the seat forwards so that she can get in easier and will not fall forwards if I have to break hard. We go through customs at Swiss/French border almost daily, and she always barks at the customs officers- no problems ever incurred.
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Re: Dogs in Cars

I've just been sent a fine of CHF 470.- because our dog was in the foot well of the passenger side of the car with my wife keeping hold of her. The Police didn't even know if there was a law against this at the time that they stopped me. So they decided to make a note and send the Details to a judge to find out if I should be fined!


Our dog is always calm, so I knew there was no danger on this very short journey, particularly with my wife holding her at the time. The dog usually travels securly in the boot of our car, but this time we were not able to put her in there. Without going into too much more detail, it is worth remembering that the Police are out to make money. Whether there is a firm law or not, if they see an opportunity to fine you they will. So if your're not sure on the rules in this country, always assume maximum restrictions apply.
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Without going into too much more detail, it is worth remembering that the Police are out to make money. Whether there is a firm law or not, if they see an opportunity to fine you they will. So if your're not sure on the rules in this country, always assume maximum restrictions apply.


I can't believe you mean that.
And yes, maximun restrictions apply - otherwise there's no point.
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I've just been sent a fine of CHF 470.- because our dog was in the foot well of the passenger side of the car with my wife keeping hold of her. The Police didn't even know if there was a law against this at the time that they stopped me. So they decided to make a note and send the Details to a judge to find out if I should be fined!


Our dog is always calm, so I knew there was no danger on this very short journey, particularly with my wife holding her at the time. The dog usually travels securly in the boot of our car, but this time we were not able to put her in there. Without going into too much more detail, it is worth remembering that the Police are out to make money. Whether there is a firm law or not, if they see an opportunity to fine you they will. So if your're not sure on the rules in this country, always assume maximum restrictions apply.
What does the wording of the fine say? If you have an airbag, then where you sat your dog was very dangerous and I could see this being a problem.

But why exactly were you stopped? If your dog was on the floor in front of the passenger seat, I am not sure the police would have been able to see that unless you have a very large dog and the dog's head or shoulders were visible from the window.

As far as I understand it, the law is such that the dog should in no way interfere with the driver of the car.
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Old 20.10.2014, 14:36
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I've just been sent a fine of CHF 470.- because our dog was in the foot well of the passenger side of the car with my wife keeping hold of her. The Police didn't even know if there was a law against this at the time that they stopped me. So they decided to make a note and send the Details to a judge to find out if I should be fined!


Our dog is always calm, so I knew there was no danger on this very short journey, particularly with my wife holding her at the time. The dog usually travels securly in the boot of our car, but this time we were not able to put her in there. Without going into too much more detail, it is worth remembering that the Police are out to make money. Whether there is a firm law or not, if they see an opportunity to fine you they will. So if your're not sure on the rules in this country, always assume maximum restrictions apply.
Easiest solution is to have a short line attached to the dogs harness (better not to the collar because of the risk of breaking the dogs neck) and plugged into the seat belt like this or this
or you can fix to to the door with this but better not have the dog in the front because the air bag will crush him.

CHF 470 is brutal; usually it is CHF 300, probably some admin costs because the police did not issue the ticket on the spot.

We have dog carriers for our two but they are both under 8Kg so small carriers on the back seat are OK.

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CHF 470 is brutal; usually it is CHF 300, probably some admin costs because the police did not issue the ticket on the spot.
A judge had to decided as there is no simple fine/Ordnungsbusse for badly secured cargo.

See also this lawyer's view on this topic: http://www.daniel-jung.ch/Hunde/Hund...uto%205-14.pdf
You may get in touch with him if the 10 day time limit for objection is not over.
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Do they have to be restrained?
Depends on who is driving...
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Old 20.10.2014, 15:22
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Depends on who is driving...
A sheep?
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Nah, just my dog listening to "Eisbär" and waiting for some interesting wildlife
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What does the wording of the fine say? If you have an airbag, then where you sat your dog was very dangerous and I could see this being a problem.

But why exactly were you stopped? If your dog was on the floor in front of the passenger seat, I am not sure the police would have been able to see that unless you have a very large dog and the dog's head or shoulders were visible from the window.

As far as I understand it, the law is such that the dog should in no way interfere with the driver of the car.


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I've contacted the Staatsanwltschaft. They have confirmed that the fine is because they believe the dog was in danger (nothing to do with the driver being at risk). They agree that the dog could not cause an accident because she was being restrained by my wife. They were concerned that if I breaked hard it could endanger the dog. I usually have the dog secure in the boot, but don't agree that the dog was at much more risk where it was sat. The passenger airbag would have cleared her head by a long way, so she was not at risk from that. The most annoying thing is that there is no law governing this and it comes down to the discretion of a Policeman (who didn't know if I'd done anything wrong) and a judge who wasn't there. Oh well! Lessons learnt!


I was stopped as part of a routine traffic control on a tiny road through a forest where about 2 cars an hour pass through!
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I've contacted the Staatsanwltschaft. They have confirmed that the fine is because they believe the dog was in danger (nothing to do with the driver being at risk).
If there would be no law there would be no fine. Nulla poena sine lege.
So what is the actual verdict by the judge/prosecutor? Violation of Art. 30 or 31 SVG or a violation of Art. 28 TSchG ? And how did justfy it, once again what is the exact wording of verdict?
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