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Old 30.04.2012, 10:18
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

I want to express here my deception.
As you know I decided to get a kitten months ago and following your advice I contacted the Tierheim in Wagen bei Olten.
Back in March they said they have a preganant cat, so we were calling ones a week for 2 months, as they told me to do, until the kittens are born. Last week was the moment. I was excited and happy, I have got a termin and went there.
Ones I was there they told me they do not have cats. They obviously did not like my german level (and the fact of being foreigner).
Then I got mad and I told them we have called and they told me they have kittens!! Then they started with excuses and wierd stuff until the give me an internet link to look at it. The link si nothing to do with them.
What the f*** is wrong???
I felt discriminated. They lye to me, and I could not discuss it because I was already mad about the situation and my german was crap!
I wait so long for nothing...
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Old 30.04.2012, 10:41
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

Forget it. After seeing the procedure in Switzerland to get a dog, we just gave up and got one from a shelter in France. Sometimes im wondering if Swiss shelters really want to give their animals for adoption
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

Seyon, I'm sorry that things did not work out as you had hoped.

I don't know this Tierheim, so I cannot comment on this particular situation - but I do know something of the general practices in rehoming. Perhaps I can offer some insight that might help you the next time you consider adoption.

First, the goal of a rescue center is to find the best possible home for the animals in it's care. Not every home is the right home for a particular individual.

Toward that end, it is incumbent on you, the potential adopter, to show that you meet all the rescue's criteria, not only the general adoption criteria but also that you can meet the needs of this individual animal, based on the rescue's asssessment. One should not expect the rescue to do all the leg work of investigating an interested party - no, a potential adopter must be proactive, must do whatever is necessary to prove that he/she is indeed a good home and more importantily the right home for the individual.

Think of the rehoming interview as a job interview. You wouldn't show up for a job interview and simply say 'I'd be a good employee - give me the job.' No, you would do background research, you would put together a presentation highlighting your skills and experience, you would discuss how those apply in this particular situation, you would have references attesting to your abilities on hand.

Same applies to rehoming an animal - you need to convince the rescue that you are the kind of person they are looking for, that you are the right home for this animal.

If you do not speak the local language well you are at a disadvantage as you won't be able to adequately put your case forward. Look at it from the rescue's perspective - if you could not adequately communicate why you would be a good home for the cat, why would they give him to you?

Somehow, the interaction you had with the rescue didn't go well, you were not able to convince them that you were the kind of home they are looking for. But rather than dwell on that, think of how you could improve your presentation the next time - and move on.

Next time you see a cat you are interested in, bring someone fluent in the local language with you to translate. Bring your references, translated into the local language. Show that you are serious.

When kittens (or puppies) come into rescue there are often several homes interested in adopting them. The rescue interviews all potential adopters and based on those interviews picks the home they feel is best. It may well be that there were other homes interested, who put their case forward better than you did.

Next time you see kittens or a pregnant cat coming into rescue, make an appointment right away for an interview. Say that you realize that no decisions can be made yet, but that you would like to get to know the rescue, meet the mother cat, and discuss what you can offer to a kitten. Show you are serious. Then when the kittens are born but still too young to leave the mother, ask if you could visit when safe to do so - again, show that you are serious, go the extra mile. At each visit, show how committed you are.

And assuming that you have established a good rapport with the rescue, ask if you can definitively reserve the kitten. Many rescues allow this - and several expect a serious candidate to do so. Again, it goes to showing commitment.

Please don't feel that you have been hard done by - while I understand your disappointment, that attitude will not help you next time around. Rather, look at this as a learning experience. Look at your interaction with the rescue and try to think how you could have handled it better.

Take heart - you will find your kitten.

Wishing you all the best.

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Old 30.04.2012, 11:30
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

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Seyon, I'm sorry that things did not work out as you had hoped.

I don't know this Tierheim, so I cannot comment on this particular situation - but I do know something of the general practices in rehoming. Perhaps I can offer some insight that might help you the next time you consider adoption.

First, the goal of a rescue center is to find the best possible home for the animals in it's care. Not every home is the right home for a particular individual.

Toward that end, it is incumbent on you, the potential adopter, to show that you meet all the rescue's criteria, not only the general adoption criteria but also that you can meet the needs of this individual animal, based on the rescue's asssessment. One should not expect the rescue to do all the leg work of investigating an interested party - no, a potential adopter must be proactive, must do whatever is necessary to prove that he/she is indeed a good home and more importantily the right home for the individual.

Think of the rehoming interview as a job interview. You wouldn't show up for a job interview and simply say 'I'd be a good employee - give me the job.' No, you would do background research, you would put together a presentation highlighting your skills and experience, you would discuss how those apply in this particular situation, you would have references attesting to your abilities on hand.

Same applies to rehoming an animal - you need to convince the rescue that you are the kind of person they are looking for, that you are the right home for this animal.

If you do not speak the local language well you are at a disadvantage as you won't be able to adequately put your case forward. Look at it from the rescue's perspective - if you could not adequately communicate why you would be a good home for the cat, why would they give him to you?

Somehow, the interaction you had with the rescue didn't go well, you were not able to convince them that you were the kind of home they are looking for. But rather than dwell on that, think of how you could improve your presentation the next time - and move on.

Next time you see a cat you are interested in, bring someone fluent in the local language with you to translate. Bring your references, translated into the local language. Show that you are serious.

When kittens (or puppies) come into rescue there are often several homes interested in adopting them. The rescue interviews all potential adopters and based on those interviews picks the home they feel is best. It may well be that there were other homes interested, who put their case forward better than you did.

Next time you see kittens or a pregnant cat coming into rescue, make an appointment right away for an interview. Say that you realize that no decisions can be made yet, but that you would like to get to know the rescue, meet the mother cat, and discuss what you can offer to a kitten. Show you are serious. Then when the kittens are born but still too young to leave the mother, ask if you could visit when safe to do so - again, show that you are serious, go the extra mile. At each visit, show how committed you are.

And assuming that you have established a good rapport with the rescue, ask if you can definitively reserve the kitten. Many rescues allow this - and several expect a serious candidate to do so. Again, it goes to showing commitment.

Please don't feel that you have been hard done by - while I understand your disappointment, that attitude will not help you next time around. Rather, look at this as a learning experience. Look at your interaction with the rescue and try to think how you could have handled it better.

Take heart - you will find you kitten.

Wishing you all the best.
It is crazy. I took it seriously. We even dress up nicely, I took a german dictionary with me in case of getting lost. Over the phone they said to my Swiss friends helping me with the calls in german that they wanted to speak with me. That is why my husband and me went alone. I expresses my previous expirience with cats, I gave them my address and invited them to come and see my appartment.
When they ask me what type of cat I want, colours, I clearly told It does not matter, just want to live a happy home to a little baby. I am not looking for colours.
What more I could do??? I think is ridiculous the way they treat me. At least they should wrote my details down. Or tell me they have to think about...but nothing. I was just kick out.
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Old 30.04.2012, 14:04
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

Seyon, who knows what happened - but you should simply chalk it up to experience and move on.

Only our own actions are under our control so it is best to concentrate on those, and work on how to present one's self the next time around to avoid a similar disappointment.

Getting angry is never helpful or effective, and can often put you in a bad light. While disappointment is understandable, you should avoid being seen to react this way.

If it's any help, here is what I do when I approach a rescue:

First, my German isn't perfect - and is weakest over the phone. So rather than calling I first write an e-mail. This way I get a chance to say everything I want to say. I am convinced that writing first steers the conversation in the direction I want it to go, and makes a good first impression.

I start out by introducing myself and giving an outline of my skills and experience, highlighting my experience with rescue animals and my committment to the rescue ethos.

I talk about my motivation, why this particular animal has touched my heart.

I talk about the kind of life I can give the animal, addressing each and every point in the animal's dossier. I show in detail how I can meet each point in the adoption criteria - or where I cannot, I address that and I propose what I believe to be acceptable alternative.

Describe your accomodation with an eye to meeting the animal's needs and the animal's safety. Be specific. If you are renting, mention that you have permission to keep an animal already written into your contract.

And when looking for a cat, address the indoor/outdoor issue. Understand where the rescue sits on this point.

I mention that my vets and trainers would be happy to provide references.

I then propose a follow-up phone call, and ask when that would be convenient. (From my own rescue work, this is important. Rescue volunteers are usually very busy - and you want to catch the volunteer at a time when he/she is not so frazzled.)

Then I ask a native speaker to proof read my note.

When I follow through with a phone call, it will be obvious that I am an Auslander. So I use that to my advantage. I talk about how my dogs have traveled the world with me, highlighting my commitment to their welfare no matter where life takes me.

Let's face it - this is a real concern for many rescues. Unfortunately the bad eggs who have abandoned their pets when opportunity calls elsewhere have given expats a bad name. Working in rescue myself, I see folks dumping their pets when leaving the country all too often - in every stereotype there is a kernel of truth. So we need to be proactive, address this concern head-on. Show the rescue that you have a plan in place should you find that leaving Switzerland is in the cards.

ETA:

Another 'Auslander' issue that is important to address: One needs to show that one understands Swiss expectations of what it means to give an animal an 'artgerecht' life, which may be different than what is expected - or percieved to be expected - in one's home country. Toward that end, the BVet's brochure 'Katzen Richtig Halten' is helpful background material.

During the phone call, re-iterate all the points you mentioned in your note. Also ask questions - about the rescue, about the animal in question. Make it personal.

Propose an in-person meeting.

Remember that this is an assessment on both sides. The chemistry between the rescue, the animal, and you needs to be right.

Bottom line, treat every contact as an opportunity to put yourself in the best light possible. I'll say it again: be proactive.

If after all this the rescue decides that you are not right for this particular animal - accept their judgement and move on.

Every rescue works with it's own guidelines. Some are very strict, some quite flexible. That you haven't 'clicked' with a particular rescue (or animal) does not mean that rescue is not for you, simply that you need to find another - and there are so many rescues, so many cats in need.

You'll find your feline friend, don't worry.

All the best.

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Old 30.04.2012, 18:14
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

Thanks for all you answers. I am already working in a different way...the friend of a friend that knows someone with kittens.

meloncollie - it is not a matter of accepting a NO as an answer. It is not that I did not pass an exam, or I was not given the job. It is the rudeness of the people and the fact of them lying to me. They should always be honest and respect the interest of people for helping.
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Old 30.04.2012, 18:31
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

I have just adopted 2 Beautiful cats 2 yrs old Why Not adopt a Cat that needs a good loving Home
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I am going to get 2! I could not resist.
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Re: WANTED: Sweet and Pretty Kitten

See Gucci needs a home thread in the Pets Corner part of the forum. Maybe you can help give him a new home.
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