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Oerlikon Sunday Road Bike Ride
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17.08.2008 15:30 to 18:30
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City/Town: Zürich
Event Type: Sports
Meeting Point: Bhf. Oerlikon - Rear side at recycling

This is a challenging ride north of Zürich starting from Oerlikon. Participants should be accustomed to climbing hills, riding a distance of 40 miles (65 km), and familiar with safe cycling and group cycling guidelines below.

We will follow a similar route as last week, however one more hill is added and the route heads into some great scenic countryside instead of up to the Rhine. This ride is a bit more challenging than last week but we will still wait and regroup at the top of hills.

Exact meeting point and route will be posted later.

Meeting Place: Bahnhof Oerlikon - Rear side at the recycling bins.
Start Time: 03:30 PM (no ride if raining)

Distance: ~60-70 km

Climbing: This contains several difficult climbs. Participants should be accustomed to climbing multiple hills larger than 150m and slopes of up to 12º.
Ride Time: 2.5-3 hours (approx.)

Route Map: http://www.mapmyride.com/route/ch/z%fcrich/453492999027

Small Print: Be sure to wear a helmet! We will be riding on roads with cars and possibly tractors coming directly at you on small paths. Anyone participating in the EF rides are doing so at his/her own risk.

GROUP CYCLING SAFETY
First, review the website below for a list of all the common ways potentially fatal bike accidents happen, and easy things you can do to greatly minimize your risk. I have been cycling for years, but even I found some situations I have not considered.
http://bicyclesafe.com/

Second, below are some very basic guidelines for group riding. I copied these out of the guidelines for a MS150 charity ride (http://bikenjb.nationalmssociety.org/site/DocServer/BikeSafetyBrochure.pdf?docID=25002)
  1. Group cycling has its own form of communication. The presence of road hazards, directions, and need-to-know information is relayed through the pack of riders by gestures and words. Remember to pass all communication on to the next cyclist behind you in the group. Speak loudly and clearly.
  2. The following are the most common terms you may hear in group-sponsored rides:
    1. On your Left: This means a rider is approaching your left side. Allow room to pass.
    2. Car back: This means a car is approaching from the rear. All riders make an effort to move to the right of the road in a single file until the car passes. In most states, the law requires cyclists to ride no more than two abreast. This ensures that traffic will not be impeded, and will make passing easier and safer for the cyclists.
    3. Gravel - Pothole - Sand - Tracks: Each of these messages is to alert the riders behind you of hazardous road conditions. The words are combined with the gesture of pointing to the hazard well in advance.
    4. Flat: This indicates that a rider has suffered a flat tire. Allow enough room for the rider to slow down and move to the right side of the road for repair. Offer assistance if needed.
    5. Slowing: The cyclist in front of you is slowing down. Use caution and prepare to stop. Many cyclists use the palm of their hand toward riders behind them to indicate slowing and stopping.
    6. Stopping: This indicates that a rider ahead is stopping. Do not forget to unclip from your pedals.
  3. Your responsibility in a pack includes:
    1. Be aware of others around you.
    2. Communicate well in advance. Use gestures in combination with verbal commands.
    3. Ride with your head up. Look down the road; not at the person in front of you.
    4. Maintain control and speed of your bike, even going downhill.
    5. Know your limits. Crashes can occur when inexperienced riders do not have bike-handling skills to make quick decisions in a pack.
    6. Safety starts with you. Group mentality is not always safe. Expect to stop at all redlights and stop signs—it is the law! Each cyclist is responsible for verifying that the intersection is clear.
    7. Adjust your safety zone to fit the conditions of the road, weather and traffic.
    8. Always plan an escape route.
    9. Never overlap your wheels with another cyclist.
    10. Do not use aerobars in a pack.
    11. Be aware of how weather will affect your bike. Riding in wet conditions requires slower speeds and greater breaking distances.
    12. Be respectful of other riders. Help others when needed.
  4. Bicycle Laws
    1. All states [similar laws in Switzerland] consider cyclists vehicle operators, and give them the same rights and duties as other drivers.
    2. Know and obey all traffic laws: The golden rule of bicycling in a group is Be Predictable!
    3. Stay right: Ride in the right portion of the rightmost lane in the direction you are traveling and leave at least four feet between your handlebars and parked cars or other hazards such as other cyclists. You may move left when passing slower vehicles or preparing for a left turn.
    4. Obey all traffic signs and signals: Avoid “following the leader” through traffic signs and signals; you are required to obey all traffic signs and signals, including stopping at red lights and stop signs.
    5. Look & signal before you move: Always scan behind you before changing lanes or making turns. A continuous arm signal is required prior to a turn or lane change (unless arm is needed to control the bike) and while stopped waiting to turn.
    6. Two at a time: Ride no more than two abreast and do not impede traffic. If a part of the road has been closed and dedicated to “bicycle travel only” you may ride more than two abreast.
Finally, I would like to add my own advise for riding in a group, especially in a paceline:
  1. Ride as smoothly as possible. Any unpredictable motion (lateral movement, braking, standing up out of saddle) can cause the person behind you to crash. Riding smoothly means:
    1. Maintain a constant pedaling effort.
    2. Do not brake unless you have to for your own safety. If the group is braking, it helps to yell "braking" so those behind you have time to prepare.
    3. Lateral (sideways) movements should be deliberately slow and smooth. Never make a quick lateral movement as you may cross tires with the person behind you, or startle passing vehicles that may lead to collisions.
  2. Maintain a single-file paceline. Although these are social rides, on busy roads riding next to someone side-by-side should be avoided. Save conversations for wide, non-busy roads or bike paths.
  3. Drop back on the left. If you are leading a paceline and want to drop to the back, you should first look to your left to make sure there is not traffic approaching. Then, you should slowly adjust your position to the left such that the paceline can pass you on your right. You should signal to the person behind you that you are dropping back (such as flaring out your elbow), and then slowly reduce your speed. Rejoin the paceline at the back.
  4. Leave enough space to the cyclist in front of you. This is based on your comfort level. New riders should leave at least a bicycle length or two between you and the rider in front of you.
  5. Look down the road, not at the cyclist in front of you.
  6. DO NOT DO ANYTHING SUDDENLY!

RSVP'd Yes: 2 (2 members and No guests)
  • patrickrd - Still going to do a ride at 3:30 as planned, but less intense
  • ManBearPig - Pumping up my Villiger
RSVP'd Maybe: 2 (2 members and No guests)
  • Rahul - going on a hike tomorrow..will see how my legs feel on Sunday.
  • bom - I will be there but I'm not sure I will be able to do the whole route.
RSVP'd No: 4
  • Eire - Wrong sort of tyres for a Sunday ride. But good on ya for organising.
  • hillseeker - Have a prior commitment, but hope to make it one of these times... Have fun!
  • Johanna - Sadly, i have yet to fix my bike (it needs an overhaul!) from last week... Hope to be back out there soon. Have fun!
  • dakman - sorry going to do some trail riding with Mrs...but will join in the future - also with the reduction of light in the evenings, this may become them main group ride
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Re: Oerlikon Sunday Road Bike Ride

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This event is organised by Patrickrd and I am pleased and happy with it so far. No need for me to get involved on other event organisation chores.

I'm looking forward for the next date.
SL, I'm glad your pleased with it. But remember, group activities are not about pleasing individuals. It about pleasing the whole group, which involves compromise, effort and teamwork. And I have yet to be involved in an EF group ride where people have been turned away, intimidated or left behind. And I think therefore those who are involved in the TNR are justified in taking your "elitist" tag as an insult.

When I go through all the cycling-related thread in recent months, there only seems to be one person rubbing against the grain...and I'll give you one guess who that is. So where (or with whom) does the issue really sit?

I think it is commendable you involve yourself in a range of physical / social activities such as cycling, footy, salsa, etc. But to really improve at any one activity you need a certain level of commitment, time, and effort. And if you have conflicting interests, you have to accept the limitations... a you can't be a good weightlifter and sprinter.

I am by no means elite, I am a heavyweight as far as cycling goes. But I try to take a lesson from one of cycling greats:

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Don't buy uprades, ride up grades!
Now given some of your posts here and on a roadbikereview.com, you've thrown more money at cycling in the last 6 months than I could dream of doing in 5 years...your TT bike seems to indicate you are really serious. However there is more to cycling than bling... money can't buy you sense of achievement or involvement. The EF Alpine Adventure had me in agony two nights in a row...but it was more than made up for by the euphoria of having conquered 6 of Switzerlands toughest climbs, and the joy of sharing the accheivement with equally enthusiastic people.

Not to mention, the sweat, the pain, and the desire to be constantly challenged by those who are faster and better than me equate to a consistent performance increase.

And now that patrickrd is otherwise engaged, feel free to put a foot forward and organise an event optimised to your taste. I'm sure you'll find people to join you.
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Re: Oerlikon Sunday Road Bike Ride

Thank you for your advice litespeed.

I know what I like and I like what I do.

I thank your advice, but believe me I don't need people to tell me what I should want to do.

To me those activities are pleasure activities, I do it to be fit and feel good.

I see no point in going past the point where it is pleasurable with its healthy dose of challenge and becomes a suffering or conflictive experience.

My comments on this thread were simply because I welcomed the creation of this event that fitted what I was looking for, but then at the next week there was the intention to make it harder and hillier.

And I repeat, do what you want to do, if you want to push yourself and do more hills and more hard rides, that's great for you. Go on.

I can only post here my opinions about and if it goes out of my scope of desirability I simply not participate, I can allways do it in the way I have been doing it for years and I have been happy and satisfied with it so far.

End of drama.
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