aggh yes, I should have tried to call you but was thinking you might be off in the other side of Switzerland, we had a pretty good ride but as we decided to ride rather than train it spent most of our time somewhere between zurich and your area, we did manage to to summit at kyburg and see the wonderful castle from outside

and enjoy a coffee and cake before commuting back to zurich via flat roads that Salsal Lover would have envied. ......