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Old 26.09.2011, 16:40
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

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If you know how to fall, your wrists will be OK.

If you panic, you will extend your arms, grit your teeth, shut your eyes.... and experience a broken wrist.

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As data shows that fractures and sprains of the wrist seem to be the most common serious snowboard injury, it would suggest that panicking is very common amongst snowboarders. Even good ones.

However, also bare in mind that sometimes it can be quite difficult to fall correctly with a 1.5m board strapped to your feet.
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That's not true at all.

We are talking about a 'learner' here, not Shaun White.

Granted that there is no 'safe' way to fall once you are moving at pace, but falling correctly while you are learning will prevent the possibility of serious injury..... and good practice for the future.

If you go out dressed like an American footballer because you are afraid of getting hurt, this will also hinder your ability to progress........ and if you are seriously that afraid, then perhaps snowboarding isn't for you.


Locking your arms out when you fall will increase the pressure on the wrist joint- hence the 'snap'.

Falling and allowing your arms to absorb the impact will only slow the rate your body smashes to the ground, and will prevent serious injury....... but not bruises etc.


I'm not saying "don't" wear wrist guards....... I'm saying analyse how you react in a falling situation.
If you haven't done many activities where falling and impact is involve, OR you are afraid of pain...... then you are more likely to hurt yourself.


As I have been told before:
"Pain is weakness leaving the body"
Beginners are more likely to panic and do the wrong thing and perhaps more likely to injure their wrists.

The OP hasn't stated how old, how fit or how agile they are so we can assume worst case.

Most serious injury from snowboarding are to the wrists.

The OP can make up their own mind about wearing them.

Personally, I wear gloves with inbuilt wrist protection and a helmet. I don't look like an American footballer. I've done lots of sports where falling is a big part of them - mainly because I'm not very good at them
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Hi - well I'm 33, did quite a few sports in the past, but never on snow / ice, so I'm going to be prepared to fall a lot.

Look, I'm DEFINITELY wearing a helmet. And as far as I can see gloves with some padding in the wrists, and also some sort of lighter knee support won't restrict my movement too much. As for the butt region well I guess this depends on how much protection I go for!

Thanks for all the input though, very much appreciated.

Now, give me some tips on cheaper places to go and learn!
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Old 26.09.2011, 17:54
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Hi - well I'm 33, did quite a few sports in the past, but never on snow / ice, so I'm going to be prepared to fall a lot.

Look, I'm DEFINITELY wearing a helmet. And as far as I can see gloves with some padding in the wrists, and also some sort of lighter knee support won't restrict my movement too much. As for the butt region well I guess this depends on how much protection I go for!

Thanks for all the input though, very much appreciated.

Now, give me some tips on cheaper places to go and learn!
All Swiss instructors have to be qualified - so wherever you go, you should get the same quality of teaching (depending on the instructor, of course).
The other main factor that affects cost is lifts.
When you first learn, you don't need a multi-mountain multi lift mega pass for 100CHF. You can still find resorts where an all-day card for a couple of lifts is only about 30CHF.
However, at some of these resorts, there are only T-bar and button lifts which aren't so easy to manage on a snowboard when you start out.

Isn't it a bit early to be talking about skiing and snowboarding? There were people swimming in the lake and sunbathing at lunchtime today.
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Old 26.09.2011, 17:58
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Well, if you want to go somewhere in Switzerland, I recommend the Riders Palace in Laax - it's a fun & cheap place to stay and right at the lift. Of course you will pay Swiss prices for lifts & lessons though....
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Used to take groups of young people to snowboard in the Alps, and I saw many in tears (that's beefy 30 year olds) because although they are getting quite good at turning etc, they just can't get the hang of taking the poma lift or the T-bar. The frustration can be intense to say the least. So if you can learn where you can use a modern chairlift with a good clutch system (eg that slows right down for you to come off) or even better a bubble/gondola lift, so that you can carry your board up and not have to ride it- the better. In Verbier now, you can ride a very large part of the mountain without having to take either a poma, a T-bar or even a chairlift - until you feel more confident.
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

I would check out Fiesch, it's beside the Aletsch Glacier. There are three different ski resorts linked together there. It's got amazing views, and the runs are fairly beginner/intermediate, so you will have lots of options to try out, without pushing your level too high too fast.

Snowboarding is great, but it might help to mentally prepare to have three not so fun days. Usually by day three you are getting the hang of it and are enjoying it. You will fall a lot on your bum, but don't be dissuaded, that's normal and soon you will find your balance.

Also, unfortunately, often beginner runs have a t-bar, which is kinda hard on a snowboard, especially when you are beginning. It helps to hold your hips stiff, but keep your knees bent. Again, you will get the hang of it!

If you have ever wake-boarded or skateboarded, that will help too.
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Rule numero uno - don't look down, look where you are going- and of course, bendz ze knees!
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Hi,
if you want I can teach you a bit (during the week-end), it will be not expensive and not "only for money" attitude which most instructors have. I am doing it (riding) for 5 years and tech time to time my friends. in terms of time - in Zermatt you can ride in November, fresh snow will be around New Year ( I hope), so you have to time to chose/think.

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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Hi Alexei - what are your favourite snowboarding spots near Neuch? La Robella, Les Bugnenets, Les Rasses, Mont D'Or/Metabief?
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

About protection,
at the beginning, IMHO, the most useful is wrists protection definitely - when you are fulling to the back you automatically try to fall/help with your hands, i.e. wrists and falling down to the ice ( or tough snow which is equidistantly hard) usually leads to injures. So, 1) use wrist protection, PREFERABLE do chose weather/place with more or less soft snow (not ice, at least you shold see trace after you boots on the snow). build it protection not bad but it is not fixerd on the arm as well as protection for roller blades - so iuse this one - always.
the second part - knee and bottom - nothing special in terms of how it happen - always :-) knee pad and shorts can help you. Sometimes I used knee pads for volley ball - not bad but difficult to keep them on the knee - after several hours they slip to feet and in snbd trousers it is difficult to correct it.
Helmet - difficult to say, I can tell you this - you WILL definitely use it, the question is when - AFTER the first serious falling down or after.
as summary I would like to say this - choose good place ( not with hard snow/ice). Also I would say that that good technic (i.e instructor or you can do exercises by your own) will help you a lot. The most common mistake - "butt-out syndrome" ( photo here http://onboard.ru/articles/4617/306/- ), article here http://bomberonline.com//articles/your_butt.cfm) I am not familiar with english source for HowTo but I definitely recommend to learn it, google will help you.

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Hi Alexei - what are your favourite snowboarding spots near Neuch? La Robella, Les Bugnenets, Les Rasses, Mont D'Or/Metabief?
Hi my favorite place are Klosters or Zermatt actually :-) because I am in Neuchatel since January did n explore it enough. I hear about port du soliy, crans montana. I wish to go to chamonix valley blanc this season :-)
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Hi Alexei - what are your favourite snowboarding spots near Neuch? La Robella, Les Bugnenets, Les Rasses, Mont D'Or/Metabief?
also heard that champery is near. If there is enough snow people ride in Jura,
maybe there is good freeriding, Ido not know yet :-)
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

The places I mentioned are all local - in the Neuchatel Jura or just over the border- last winter was absolutely rubbish - so let's hope for a good season. Yes, Portes du Soleil is the nearest Alpine resort- starting at Torgon, going over to Chapelle d'Abondance, Chatel, Morgins, Champoussin then Champery Les Crosets and Avoriaz. Les Crosets is the place to hang out for young snowboarders.
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

and here is some tips howTo do it
http://www.abc-of-snowboarding.com/learn-snowboarding/
I have a look quickly - not bad :-)
have fun!
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

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Take a private lesson for a half day first and learn the basic right away, then is just practice and practice ... have fun
Seconded.
This is exactly what I did when I learnt whilst living in Neuchatel.

It was hardly even a resort, I think the place had one drag lift, which naturally learning to snowboard I avoided!
Half a day private lesson and then the next few weekends just walking up, then boarding down a hill.
When you're confident enough then go to the resorts and stick to a good run and use it again and again.

Good luck, you'll love it
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Re: Learn to Snowboard - thinking of Feldberg, any tips?

Resurrection! (the title is closest to my question, therefore that)

I'm about to try snowboarding (first time, if you take out the wheelless skateboards on the snow in my youth ), and was planning to hit Feldberg next weekend.

Any snowboarding schools you can recommend, if possible in English?
Also, can I rent the equipment there (including "buttpads" ), e.g. with the school I apply for?

I believe I read about Thoma somewhere - http://www.thoma-skischule.de/skikur...erg-buchen.php - do they offer English?
And these guys are linked from their page: http://snowboard-fahrschule.de/ (seems equipment is available too)
Experiences?

Thanks!

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