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Old 02.10.2014, 20:01
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Don't skimp on the shoes. I know you said you'd buy nice ones later if you liked it, but in the wrong shoes, you very much won't like it. Get assessed and get the right shoes - they won't cost much more, but your body will thank you for it. When I wear the wrong ones, I hurt after just a kilometer or two; put on the right ones and I run for 90 minutes pain free.
especially important if you're in a midlife crisis and 15kg too heavy. Think of your knees, hips and ankles......also be careful of your technique as you could cause too much jarring and that's not nice.
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especially important if you're in a midlife crisis and 15kg too heavy. Think of your knees, hips and ankles......also be careful of your technique as you could cause too much jarring and that's not nice.
This, I think is debatable.. I do better without shoes. But I have an interesting arch on my foot.
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Re: Running beginner

Another ridiculous thread from the know nothings at English forums:

Running to 5km is quite easy. 10km is also easy I believe after that you would need a more structured approach. If you put the time in, you get better.

Couple of tips: if you you have a bit of a gut mind your back as it bounces quite a bit and will cause problems for lower back.

Run slower than you feel you can. If you want to become a regular runner this is best advice I could offer. You will run like crazy and think I can run like this all day. Suddenly you go over a ledge and you can't come back. Hold yourself to a stage where you could talk slightly out of breath don't allow yourself to reach a point where you begin gasping as you won't last long.

I started running again about 3 months ago. I run 5km in just under 25 min and 10km in about 55 min. These are terrible times by standards of serious runners but they are times I am more than happy with as I run for enjoyment

Just stick your trainers on, remember to stretch and enjoy it
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Old 02.10.2014, 21:16
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Re: Running beginner

Agree with the bit about running slow, and remembering to stretch! Stretch is v important (and it feels good!)

Cheap trainers have been fine for me? i dunno if it's because I'm so small, or it might be that I don't run very intensely. My feet never hurt though
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Old 02.10.2014, 21:37
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Another ridiculous thread from the know nothings at English forums:


Run slower than you feel you can. If you want to become a regular runner this is best advice I could offer.
I'd agree with the running slowly at first thing too.

I'm not sure I understand your first comment though. There are people on this thread (not me though) who have done 100Km races etc.

I think they know a bit about running.
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Old 02.10.2014, 21:47
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Re: Running beginner

Running is sooooo boring ........ I tried it once - got myself up to about the 10 mile mark - in winter, which was like breathing shards of glass ...... but god, it was boring. Stopped after a few months and wet back on the beer and fags.

Wouldn't it just be easier to mend your puncture?
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Someone mentioned C25K (Couch To 5K) earlier and I would definitely advise you to start with that.
I started with this, and I recommend it as well. It's slow to start with, mostly walking, but you see improvements each session, which is important (IMO).
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Re: Running beginner

Well in the same way the op wouldn't ask a long distance cyclist how to fix a puncture a 100km runner might not be the best person to advise on how to get to run 5km.

I guess it comes down to what the op wants. If he doesn't want to take it too seriously. Run every second day, take your time and it's enjoyable.

When I started running it was about going out having a run and it became an important part of my life to clear my head. There's been a huge marketing initiative behind running in recent years and for the companies involved it's all very lucrative. I have friends that buy 200+ chf trainers. They spend hundreds on watches because their phones aren't accurate enough. Etc etc. I personally don't believe we need to be obsessive about going faster and further, especially not from day 1.

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I'd agree with the running slowly at first thing too.

I'm not sure I understand your first comment though. There are people on this thread (not me though) who have done 100Km races etc.

I think they know a bit about running.
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Re: Running beginner

Best of luck. Let us know how it goes.

I just did a 10K run on Sunday after 3 years (no jogging since 3 years, my 1st one last weekend), slow pace completed it in 90 minutes. I could not belief that I would run 10K after such a long gap without any practise. I have been an active cyclist of the past 6 months maybe my fitness level helped me here.
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Old 03.10.2014, 00:25
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Well in the same way the op wouldn't ask a long distance cyclist how to fix a puncture a 100km runner might not be the best person to advise on how to get to run 5km.
Huh?

All runners started out from nothing, irrespective of what they can do now.
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Old 03.10.2014, 00:43
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Huh?

All runners started out from nothing, irrespective of what they can do now.
I would start from jogging and keep on increasing the pace and distance. Just do it. The moment legs move away from the couch and track suit and running shoes are put on, it's the first very important step called motivation. Are you still there? Longer you postpone it, slimmer are chances to actually do it. Doers not moaners. Then head in whatever direction and run just like in this song ...

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Re: Running beginner

Right well running is simply one leg in front of the other. Not everyone needs to read 50 websites and obsessively reach a distance or time. This was my advice to the person that asked the question. I have no interest in getting into debates on here as have better things to be doing. I hope the op finds my advice useful if not maybe someone else will.

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Wouldn't it just be easier to mend your puncture?
Waiting for my new tyres to arrive . I need some variety now the evenings are drawing in and I don't fancy cycling in the dark.

Anyway peeps, enough of the bitching. All I wanted was some suggestions on how to start off for a mid 40s bloke, carrying 15 kg too much, just over a year on from a hip operation, but with a fair fitness level. I used to run when I was playing rugger, but hip and associated back problems put paid to that. I don't even know if my joints will tolerate the strain, but I'm willing to give it a bash.
Who nows, you might even see me doing the Morat-Fribourg next year .
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Waiting for my new tyres to arrive . I need some variety now the evenings are drawing in and I don't fancy cycling in the dark.

Anyway peeps, enough of the bitching. All I wanted was some suggestions on how to start off for a mid 40s bloke, carrying 15 kg too much, just over a year on from a hip operation, but with a fair fitness level. I used to run when I was playing rugger, but hip and associated back problems put paid to that. I don't even know if my joints will tolerate the strain, but I'm willing to give it a bash.
Who nows, you might even see me doing the Morat-Fribourg next year .
Have a look round your local area for a finnenbahn - they are tracks in the woods, normally between 400-800m, made of sawdust (although most are fairly compacted by this time of year). They area ideal to start on and will give you plenty of cushioning - a lot of people will run barefoot on them.

Alternatively head to your local running track and run there. The track will offer a bit more spring and should be less stress on your joints.

Be very careful you don't "pound" the ground by striking it to hard on the landing (harder to do when heel striking). The more weight you have behind the point of landing the greater the force that will transfer up your leg.
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Have a look round your local area for a finnenbahn - they are tracks in the woods, normally between 400-800m, made of sawdust (although most are fairly compacted by this time of year). They area ideal to start on and will give you plenty of cushioning - a lot of people will run barefoot on them.
Actually, that reminds me, there is one very close to us.
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Actually, that reminds me, there is one very close to us.
Get out there and use it. Most are lit in the evening - so you have no excuse!!
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Have a look round your local area for a finnenbahn - they are tracks in the woods, normally between 400-800m, made of sawdust (although most are fairly compacted by this time of year). They area ideal to start on and will give you plenty of cushioning - a lot of people will run barefoot on them.

Alternatively head to your local running track and run there. The track will offer a bit more spring and should be less stress on your joints.

Be very careful you don't "pound" the ground by striking it to hard on the landing (harder to do when heel striking). The more weight you have behind the point of landing the greater the force that will transfer up your leg.
Great advise!

I had knee surgery some months ago and started running again about two months ago. I can run on the track with no problems now. However, when I was in an optimistic mood and ran on the streets for a week, my joints and muscles felt terrible for a week I have learned a lesson and will stay on the track for a while longer. It makes a big difference.
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Agree with the bit about running slow, and remembering to stretch! Stretch is v important (and it feels good!)

Cheap trainers have been fine for me? i dunno if it's because I'm so small, or it might be that I don't run very intensely. My feet never hurt though
The current dogma advises against stretching before running and recommends it after. This was after many years of conflicting research on the matter. It seems stretching before a run can actually increase the risk of injury.

I have loose ligaments though. I'm not supposed to stretch at all since I just end up hurting myself.
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