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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Is there any snow, anywhere - or was it green boarding ...... on grass?
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Some great advice here. I'm still learning, and haven't been out boarding even once WITHOUT an instructor. It takes time. I have found the series of youtube videos from snowprofessor absolutely brilliant and really useful.

Here's the 1st one and the links for all the subsequent lessons will appear after you watch this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isFOI0E5l30
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

I was at le Grand Bornand in France. There was enough snow for me on the baby slope but my friend went exploring later and said that there was nothing and most ski lifts were closed
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

If you ever want to practise at Les Fourgs or Métabief- happy to lend you my board and boots (39)- and help you. I can't board anymore (rotten knee) but I am a good teacher - no snow at the mo though.

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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

All of the advice given is what I would also give to my friends attempting snowboarding. A few more things to add.


When making changes to the bindings, try to make only 1 change at a time, do not adjust both feet and then go down the slope, if it doesn't work, you won't know which change caused it. Change 1 thing at a time


When renting a board, try to rent for the season or buy a basic board early on. In the beginning I never took notice of the angles of the bindings and it took me a half day to get used to the board and then I could only practice. It was a waste of time. With a board for the season you loose less time in "getting to know the board"


Ensure your feet are secure in your boots (not too tight) and ensure your boots are secure on the board (as tight as comfortable). Feet or boots moving will negate the control you are looking for.


Personal choice, use bindings with a "cup" over the toe and fasten them first. This will ensure your foot is as far back in the binding as can be.


Ok, that's it for now, welcome to the "not looking like a robot when walking" club!
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Get good protection for your rear end.... I managed to break my tailbone (hairline fracture) on my second day of trying this in Meribel. You can get padded shorts that protect the tailbone (I could have done with that) and also the hips (these can also get bashed).

And of course the must have items:
- wrist protection
- helmet
- knee protection
- back protector

And get lessons...best to get the tips from the instructors on what you are doing wrong.
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If you ever want to practise at Les Fourgs or Métabief- happy to lend you my board and boots (39)- and help you. I can't board anymore (rotten knee) but I am a good teacher - no snow at the mo though.
Loads of snow at Les Fourgs now- and it is the cheapest and easiest little resort to learn, beit skiing or snowboarding- very wide and gentle slopes, short baby button (poma) lift, and 2 more longer lifts, but again leading to gentle wide slopes, no trees or rocks. Perfect with kids too, with the Snabeudzi café/restaurant just there, good car park, and ski school next to lift/café. From top of head, 10.50 Euros for half-day pass and about the same for ski hire (no snowboarding hire though). Métabief/Mt d'Or is much bigger, but also great for families.
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Old 03.02.2015, 22:23
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Grats on your first snowboarding attempt! I also had some pretty bad experiences on skis in the past and was also very nervous to try snowboarding. Hubby is a professional on the Swiss FIS circuit so I know a little more about the actual equipment than actual snowboarding. I tried for the first time last winter using his Kessler Board and Northwave boots (hard boots). I agree with your experience with staying on the "flat" slope and not to get on any lifts at the beginning. I was also too nervous to try when too many people were around for fear of running into them. So really best to try at a time with less people Hope you had awesome time and will try it again soon! BTW, we have really great slopes in the South Tirol area. After the glacier Stelvio closed in October, we were able to ski and snowboard in Sulden, South Tirol. After the snow 2 weeks ago, the rest of the Ortler Arena and even Livigno, IT. are all very good slopes! Maybe we'll see you around
http://www.ortlerskiarena.com/en/skiing-in-italy.html
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Stealing the thread.

I'm about to go to Feldberg this Saturday, and have applied to this school: http://snowboard-fahrschule.de/

Now my questions are:

1) Cheapest way to get to Feldberg from Basel? I am guessing train from Badischer Bhf? Any idea of possible prices?
P.S. Anyone knows which is the exact train station to get off in order to get there?
They say "The "Schwarzwald Sport-Zentrum" is next to Feldbergbahn at Seebuck.", but I can't find such station on bahn.de or sbb.ch.
More precise, there's a dozen of train stations having Feldberg in the name, don't know which one should I take.

2) What kind of clothes to bring with me? I will rent at least the pants (aside from board, boots, helmet), but I am thinking that my winter jacket might be too warm for such activities...
I plan to also get padded pants and wrist protectors (even though I find myself pretty agile - in falling etc. )

Any tips very much welcome!
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Old 12.02.2015, 23:20
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Stealing the thread.

I'm about to go to Feldberg this Saturday, and have applied to this school: http://snowboard-fahrschule.de/

Now my questions are:

1) Cheapest way to get to Feldberg from Basel? I am guessing train from Badischer Bhf? Any idea of possible prices?
P.S. Anyone knows which is the exact train station to get off in order to get there?
They say "The "Schwarzwald Sport-Zentrum" is next to Feldbergbahn at Seebuck.", but I can't find such station on bahn.de or sbb.ch.
More precise, there's a dozen of train stations having Feldberg in the name, don't know which one should I take.

2) What kind of clothes to bring with me? I will rent at least the pants (aside from board, boots, helmet), but I am thinking that my winter jacket might be too warm for such activities...
I plan to also get padded pants and wrist protectors (even though I find myself pretty agile - in falling etc. )

Any tips very much welcome!
Wear ski pants. They are padded enough. Jacket is good. Wear it, its extra padding. You absolutely need wrist and knee protectors. Seriously, dont you dare not wear knee protectors. You will spend more time on your knees than anything.
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Wear ski pants. They are padded enough. Jacket is good. Wear it, its extra padding. You absolutely need wrist and knee protectors. Seriously, dont you dare not wear knee protectors. You will spend more time on your knees than anything.

After a bad fall on my coccyx a few years ago (I wasn't even moving at the time but it was sheet ice), I got padding for that area.

Wrist protection of some sort is a given but why knee protection? I've never used it and can't see the need.
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After a bad fall on my coccyx a few years ago (I wasn't even moving at the time but it was sheet ice), I got padding for that area.

Wrist protection of some sort is a given but why knee protection? I've never used it and can't see the need.
I was using my knees to get up. Is there any other way to do it when you fall down?
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Thank you all for your inputs.

Now, regarding this part:
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1) Cheapest way to get to Feldberg from Basel? I am guessing train from Badischer Bhf? Any idea of possible prices?
P.S. Anyone knows which is the exact train station to get off in order to get there?
They say "The "Schwarzwald Sport-Zentrum" is next to Feldbergbahn at Seebuck.", but I can't find such station on bahn.de or sbb.ch.
More precise, there's a dozen of train stations having Feldberg in the name, don't know which one should I take.
After some research, I found out the station is called Feldbergerhof.
And after some more, it appears that the cheapest+fastest option is
- Basel Bad Bhf - Zell (Wiesental) by train (S6)
- Zell (Wiesental) - Feldbergerhof by bus (7300)

In total somewhat less than 2 hours, but have to be precise to catch the bus which starts once per hour.

Btw in case any EFers are going there tomorrow morning, and plan to arrive there before 9am, I'd be happy to participate in gas expenditure and get to know some new snow-aficionados.

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I was using my knees to get up. Is there any other way to do it when you fall down?
Yes, from a sitting position. It's from either position depending on whether you stop heel or toe side up the slope.

But, I've just never been conscious of any knee discomfort from getting up which has made me feel like I needed knee pads.

But, I guess we're all different and it's not like I am doing tricks or anything. Perhaps I ought to get some.
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Ah ok. No, i never tried to get up from a sitting position. My friend who was teaching told me to face the slope when getting up. I only snowboarded twice anw. Im sure you know much more than me
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Ah ok. No, i never tried to get up from a sitting position. My friend who was teaching told me to face the slope when getting up. I only snowboarded twice anw. Im sure you know much more than me
Probably not. I fall over less now though.
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Re: Snowboarding for dummies

Wow, you all are making this thread really scary for absolute beginners. I'll plonk in two cents. Too late for OP, but maybe prospective boarders will be soothed.

Back protection, knee guard, wrist guard, helmet -- NOT absolutely must. But the more of them you employ, the less unpleasant the knocks will be. A helmet is warm, protective, and is available at every single rental site, so it just makes sense anyway. Wrist/knee guards can be nice, but it's really better to actively practice falling right, and to choose nice soft practice conditions. Back armor... would anyone like to tell me where you've benefited of it? (Granted, I tend to go with a backpack containing a nice soft water pouch and conveniently armor-y shovel.)

Instructor -- NOT an absolute must. Just very convenient if you have a limited time to practice and expect to start enjoying as soon as after the first 1-2 days of school of hard knocks. If you're not on a once in a lifetime trip to the alps and can visit the slopes a few times a season, you can get the hang of it on your own.

A piece of advice I would've appreciated when I started: pick a sufficiently steep small stretch of slope on a soft snow day to practice. Not too steep, of course, but if you're going too slow or on crusty snow, you'll be teetering, catching the wrong edge, and falling much more often than necessary. Better to slide at a brisk walking pace to learn how the board responds. Ask a friend to point out a suitable 50 meter incline, slide down, detach and walk back up, repeat.

Falling -- it will happen, way too often, in the beginning due to seemingly random and devastatingly sudden edge snags. That's why you want a soft snow day to start. Fewer nasty jolts, and it also reduces those snags. If you can punch a hole in the snow, you won't be bruised blue the next day.
Learn to fall right: forward or back, bunch up and hands protecting chest and face, NOT flailing out to catch the fall. Do NOT fall on your wrists, or your knees. (The bum is OK though. Hurts less if you bunch up and allow yourself to roll.)

Do not venture into lifts until you're awesome at falling, and have practiced on that 50 meter incline with the rear boot detached enough to be able to stop. There's usually a steep little ramp off the chair exit, and when you're dealing with shaky balance and unpredictable passengers on both sides, it's easy to fall and even get injured.
Anchor and disk lifts... ouch. Some boarders never get over their dislike for these. If you can do that 50m slide with rear boot out of the binding without falling, you're probably good to go try one of these. Forget them if it's icy, or if there are snow drifts, or if they are seriously steep.

Random snags and falls will only stop once riding the board is ingrained in your motor reflexes. It will take time. A pre-teen riding every day for a week or two will get there. A middle aged beginner riding once a winter won't. Easier if you have good motor skills.
Once you get those reflexes, staying upright is natural and consists of tiny little weight shifts and jumps without conscious input. It's fun once it happens. Be patient.

A lot of the advice above is good. Especially the bit about stopping on the side and visible on top of the mounds.
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