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Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

I want to buy a bike but im newbie when it comes to biking and don't know which one to buy.
Currently im looking at these two, please help me to decide which one would be better for a starter?

Stevens Albis SX
http://www.stevensbikes.de/2015/inde...=PL&lang=de_DE


CROSSWAVE Cruiser
http://www.sportxx.ch/de/ausruestung...p.490162904886

Any professional advice regarding these two bikes (or any better option?) would be much appreciated. thanks
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

I would go into a good velo shop and ask them. They have tons of experience and know very well because they repair them after a while. There is a very good and large bycicle shop in Dietlikon. They talk about bike quality all day long.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

I am not a expert, but using Bike a lot. I wouldn't choose either of them because of the weight, anything more then 13-14 kg is too much to handle, at least for me, you will feel like a driving tank on the other hand the most city bikes are heavier then mountain and cross trekking bikes. I have a older model from Genesis and I am very satisfied. I think you have to decide where you want to use the bike primary> city only (go for city bike) or mountains (mountain bike) or both (cross trekking). Anyway you can put the holder for the shopping bag on rear wheel on each of them . In all three of them look for front and rear derailleur higher category not the basic and also brake system - regular or hydraulicall - very accurate but need to be very carefull (both have pros and cons). Last advice - look also for good and comfy seat - it does make a difference !! cheeeers and good luck
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which one would be better for a starter?
No professional insight - just a suggestion based on recent experience:

Review what need (or desire) the bike is expected to address.

Just some ideas: Dry or wet weather? Mule or race horse? Street or off-road? Long-distance or city? Flat or hilly (or mountains)? In daylight or at night? Comfy or sporty?

If you are on a budget, and if you do want to purchase in Switzerland, you might be much better off for value for money buying a used bike ("gebrauchtes velo")

Generally speaking, it seems as if the price for a "good bike" sold in Switzerland starts at about CHF 1000; what you have chosen definitely can be ridden, but the individual components are rather towards the lower end of the market. Oh, and the suspension on the front fork - forget about it at the price level you are looking at.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

Thanks for quick response everyone

Actually I went to http://www.velolukas.ch/ in Oerlikon for advice and they suggested me Stevens Albis SX according to my budget.

I'm basically intending to use it in city and tracking around. And will mostly use it in day and dry weather. What's called cross trekking bikes in german anyway?

Actually I'm limited on budget and don't want to spend more than 700 to 800 CHF. I understand it can be hard to find nice bike in this range, but I just want a reasonable one for starting. I also thought about used ones, but since I don't have much knowledge, I can end up with much worst one.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

For that kind of money, I'd take 1000 CHF and get a Canyon Hard-Tail:
https://www.purecycling.ch/mountainb...e.html?b=10380

Tested here:
http://www.bike-magazin.de/test_tech...ro/a23287.html

Add pedals, maybe some mud-guards, a carrier and then you're set.
All can be mail-ordered cheaply at bikester.ch or bike-import.ch

Bike mechanics costs a 100+ per hour here.
So it's IMO not such a great idea to skimp on the components.
You can spend too much, sure, but you can also spend too little (or pay too much for too little).

Whatever you get, make sure to clean and then lube the chain on a regular interval.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

Both of those you chose are cheap bikes really.
There should be plenty of discounts on last years models about.

If you can get a lift, or don't mind a little public transport, you could try these guys:
http://www.adrenalin.info/tour/touring/
in Lörrach.
They speak English and can make sure they have some bikes assembled and ready to try when you show up.
And you get the mwst back.
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I'm basically intending to use it in city and tracking around. And will mostly use it in day and dry weather.
1.) Get the dirt cheapest bike you can find - used.

2.) Save money for something decent.

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I also thought about used ones, but since I don't have much knowledge, I can end up with much worst one.
Buy from a reputable shop. In Zürich, in case you manage to meander towards here, there is http://www.velomaerkte.ch/

They had bikes, they looked quite ok, and they have a reputation to loose.

Alternatively, there is plenty of flea markets and plenty of bike markets (e.g. http://www.pro-velo.ch/de/themen-und...rsen/kalender/)

With your requirements, and, if I recall Dübendorf correctly, the only things that you really want to pay attention to are
- do you sit comfortably on the bike
- does the crank turn smoothly and without noise when you pedal around
- are the tires in a good shape (look at the sidewalls)
- are the wheels round (you will immediately notice on a test ride)

That's "Good Enough" according to the requirements that you posted.

Is it "Good"? Heck, no.
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Lörrach.
Konstanz is closer to Dübendorf and http://www.fahrradlagerverkauf.com/ is located there.

No recommendation, just pointing this out.
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Bike mechanics costs a 100+ per hour here.
HappyBike (http://www.happybike.ch/) in Europaallee (next to Zürich main station) seem to be having some kind of special deal running at the moment - full inspection at CHF 50 (noticed this Friday night).

Disclaimer: This is not a recommendation of HappyBike; just happened to pass by. I do not know anything about the level of service offered by HappyBike.

I like your advice on maintenance.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

I think you should really test the bikes to see which one is a best fit for you, and which one you feel most comfortable on. Geometry is really important and not something that can be changed easily. Most other things on the bike can be changed or upgraded over time.

Last year, I wanted to start cycling to the office and went to a local bike shop to test a number of different models. I spent almost the entire Saturday testing different bikes. At first, I was a little embarressed that I was taking so much time, but the guy in the shop just kept telling me that the bikes like to get some fresh air... At the end of the day, I was confident that I had found the right bike, albeit, slightly above budget. I could have probably got it online cheaper, but in my mind it was worth paying the extra for the personal touch and to establish a good relationship with the guy. If you get into cycling, you'll be back to the shop regularly enough for various bits and parts, and shop-owners know that.

So, pick a bike shop that stocks a few makes and quite a few models and is happy to let you test. Most are run by cycling enthusiasts, so they should be able to guide your decision.

good luck and enjoy the road.
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Re: Help for purchasing bike - which one is better

As rainer_d comments, I can also support Canyon Bikes.

Their website takes you through explanations of different types of bikes, their uses and which gives you performance for different terrains and uses. Some of their bikes (more their high end) can take a month or two for delivery, but you get what you pay for and wait for, the quality is top notch.

The website also has a very good sizing guide that calculates weight, leg length, trunk/body length, arm length etc to give you a very close guide to the size of frame you'd need.


As Macer says, I'd second the theory of making sure you "size" yourself for a bike properly. If you have a budget, then get the best you can for the price, but getting the right size frame it really important. The first bike I bought about 8years ago was intended for some road use and basic off road/trail use, had no suspension and I thought I knew my size. I opted for a large frame, based on just my leg length. It turned out to be very uncomfortable because I was too hunched up and my shoulders and upper back ached after about an hour and I really disliked riding and was put off for some time. When I researched frame sizing in more detailed, it turned out that I am much closer to a medium size.

My newer bike a bought from Canyon about a year ago was sized much closer to my body. I don't get any aches in my shoulders any more and now I love riding it. I'm not an expert/pro rider, but since getting that "fits" properly I really enjoy riding and getting out and about.

A good bike shop will help you with sizing and "fitting" a bike to your body/leg size, just like going to a good shoe shop or buying a suit. Just because you have a limited budget doesn't mean you cannot get a decent bike that works for you.
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HappyBike (http://www.happybike.ch/) in Europaallee (next to Zürich main station) seem to be having some kind of special deal running at the moment - full inspection at CHF 50 (noticed this Friday night).
So it's basically only 30 minutes then?
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