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Buying a cross bike

Hi !
I'm planning to get a cross bike, but feel quite bad paying 20-30% more for the same bikes in swiss bike stores (comparing to German online prices).


Any experience or recommendation ? shops in Konstanz, etc.. tax refund ?
(I'm thinking around the 800 EUR price tags)
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Re: Buying a cross bike

wiggle.co.uk is always an option
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Re: Buying a cross bike

I got my roadbike from www.biker-boarder.de. Quick delivery and competitive prices.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

Try Planet X as well. My neighbour recently bought a cross bike from them on my husbands recommendation, and he's really pleased with it.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

+1 planet X

http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/cyclocross-bikes
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Re: Buying a cross bike

You will almost certainly be much better off getting something online from overseas. However, given an EUR 800 budget, your choices are going to be quite limited so I would start researching which make/model you would like first before looking at particular shops.

The Focus Mares AX got reasonable write-ups, and you might find a base model for not too far off your budget.

I like Planet X but they don't have anything near your budget.

Evans have a few options worth looking at, such as the Genesis, Raleigh and Pinnacle (Evans' in-house brand) models seen here http://www.evanscycles.com/categorie...ort=popularity

If you can stretch your budget though you are likely to be able to significantly improve the drive train to something both lighter and more hard-wearing, which would be particularly worthwhile if you are planning on actually getting the thing wet and muddy
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Re: Buying a cross bike

Make sure you know your sizing when buying an online steed.

I got my planet x delivered to Basel last year.
All in, it cost me about 150-200chf extra in MWST, swiss 'postage' and a bill for the pleasure of letting them do the admin/paperwork.

If you could stretch the budget a smidge, canyon or rose in germany or ribble in the uk also always are highly specced bikes.

I think its the wrong time of year for a sale bike, but you might get lucky if you do some trawling. Usual suspects would be worth a look;
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You could always go to the hassles of getting a German delivery address....
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Re: Buying a cross bike

I saw a cross bike rider the other day. Told me to **** off.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

I think it's hilarious that everyone recommends UK online bike stores, while in the British online forums (e.g. singletrackworld, bikeradar) everyone goes online shopping with the German online retailers (Canyon / Purecycling, Radon, Rose, YT Industries - in alphabetical order, and to only name the most prominent ones; except for YT I know that all of them will happily deliver to Switzerland without making a fuss).

For the record, http://www.zweirad-joos.de/ near Konstanz is quite large (includes https://www.fahrradlagerverkauf.com/...ome/index.html) and allegedly quite OK.

Generally speaking, when buying a bike, the following matters:
* fit of the bike to your body / preferences
* bike geometry (overlaps with above)
* quality of frame (including suspension - comfort, stiffness, weight)
* quality of components (gearing, brakes, saddle, steering)

FWIW, and IMHO, at EUR 800 you will get something that rides, possibly even rides well, but you will not get anything that will ride wonderfully, lightly, efficiently, and that something may go bust under load sooner than you may like.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

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German online retailers (Canyon / Purecycling, Radon, Rose, YT Industries


Generally speaking, when buying a bike, the following matters:
* fit of the bike to your body / preferences
* bike geometry (overlaps with above)
* quality of frame (including suspension - comfort, stiffness, weight)
* quality of components (gearing, brakes, saddle, steering)

FWIW, and IMHO, at EUR 800 you will get something that rides, possibly even rides well, but you will not get anything that will ride wonderfully, lightly, efficiently, and that something may go bust under load sooner than you may like.
That is what I was trying to say. But obviously quite badly!! ��
A well fitting bike is much more important than having the next level up groupset. Hence why you have. Know your measurements and be prepared to fettle with the set up, if you are buying online.

For 800Eur, you wont get a bike that you actually want from Canyon or Rose. 1300Eur, maybe,
Hence why you are limited to mass stuff from online, discount retailers.
Bikediscount.de or its sister bikester.ch is worth a look. But i do believe that the in this price bracket, UK online retailers are a good place to start.
Failing that, try and get yourself to a decathlon. They will let you ride the bikes around the store and the Tribans always get good write ups and can take full mudguards and wide tyres. What else do you want for a cyclocross bike? ��

Trotting out the well worn saying;
Cheap
Strong
Light
Pick 2. Especially for 800eur.

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Re: Buying a cross bike

awesome recommendation guys, thx a lot !!
I might stretch the budget 2-300 more, and check the options

I have a feeling that Zurich is not Amsterdam, where i would have to worry every night that my bike (or some parts) get stolen..
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I have a feeling that Zurich is not Amsterdam, where i would have to worry every night that my bike (or some parts) get stolen..
Sadly you feel wrong. Bike theft is also endemic here, make sure it is always well locked up with a very good quality lock and to something immoveable.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

I am an avid cyclist and I have purchased a bike recently in Germany at Follow Me in Lörrach and in Switzerland at Gellertvelo in Basel.

Here are my suggestions (forgive me if you know this already):
* Do not purchase any bicycle that you have not test ridden. Bike stores will let you test ride bikes for hours at a time. Gellertvelo loaned me a CHF5,000 bike for 3 days to see if I like it. You will be unhappy with a badly fitted bike.
* Any shop should test you with a variety of bike stems and saddles to make sure you are comfortable and have proper posture. The local Swiss shop did this 5-6 times for me and let me drink an espresso while I waited. The DE shop never offered.
* Swiss bike stores will come down on price if you ask. I was given a 15% discount on a CHF2,000 purchase and given a free first service.
* Gellertvelo (in CH) has great service. I have broken 4 spokes this year and they have been able to replace them on same-day service. No appointment necessary.
* German stores near the border are filled with Swiss shoppers on Saturday. I was not able to get more than 10 minutes at a time with any salesperson in DE. I have heard that shops in Freiburg are better about this.
* If you purchase is CHF 800 then you can save around 100 by buying in DE but you will most likely be needing service and help at some point this summer. Plus your first maintenance will require you to drive to DE.
* If you do purchase in DE, then please buy a brand that you can also buy in Switzerland. That way local shops will stock parts and have expertise about those models.

For me, I would only buy online if I had ridden that exact model with that exact stem and saddle before purchasing. Otherwise you risk buying a bike you can't ride.
I bought me recent carbon road bike and Gellertvelo and don't regret the decision at all.
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Re: Buying a cross bike

Hi All,

I am keen to purchase a cross bike too. There is some great advice on this thread, thank you.

In order to test a few bikes, I am looking for a few cross bike shops in Zurich central or around 5 km down either side of the lake. Would any of you recommend any such shops?

Many thanks!
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Hi All,

I am keen to purchase a cross bike too. There is some great advice on this thread, thank you.

In order to test a few bikes, I am looking for a few cross bike shops in Zurich central or around 5 km down either side of the lake. Would any of you recommend any such shops?

Many thanks!
* velomaerkte.ch (don't look at their website, its an outlet, so stock moves a lot. Just go pay them a visit)
Bleicherweg 33 / Todistrasse 48

* http://www.backyard.ch/
Alfred Escher-Strasse 25

* Velofabrik.ch
Stockerstrasse 38

* Veloplus
Konradstrasse 19

That should be a good start.
First two definitely have some cross bikes (got me one a couple of months ago)
no idea about other two.

Then theres this:
https://www.google.ch/maps/search/bi...9,15.15z?hl=en
But you have to do the homework yourself

Good luck
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That is great, very much appreciated!
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