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Why do Americans insist on saying "c-m" rather than "centimetres"? It's not as if they are generally in the habit of saying as little as possible.

I've heard it a few times recently and it seems to be a trend that really grates.
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Why do Americans insist on saying "c-m" rather than "centimetres"? It's not as if they are generally in the habit of saying as little as possible.

I've heard it a few times recently and it seems to be a trend that really grates.
It's "cm". They normally use neither. It's inches and feet
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It's "cm". They normally use neither. It's inches and feet
On the video, the man with the beard said "see-em" rather than "centimetres", but yes, if he was unable to use more than two syllables in one go, he could have said "inches".
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Why do Americans insist on saying "c-m" rather than "centimetres"? It's not as if they are generally in the habit of saying as little as possible.

I've heard it a few times recently and it seems to be a trend that really grates.

cm is the official symbol for centimeters by the BIPM.

They wouldn't have made a diminished symbol if it wasn't convenience to use, and to be used.

I use it all the time and I don't think many would disagree that saying 'cm' is much easier to say and use that the 4 syllable full word.

I would actually be annoyed if the term came up many times in a conversation and someone kept on saying the full 'centimeters'.
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cm is the official symbol for centimeters by the BIPM.

They wouldn't have made a diminished symbol if it wasn't convenience to use, and to be used.

I use it all the time and I don't think many would disagree that saying 'cm' is much easier to say and use that the 4 syllable full word.

I would actually be annoyed if the term came up many times in a conversation and someone kept on saying the full 'centimeters'.
Do you drive 10 kay-ems to the supermarket to buy an el of milk? Make sure you keep it refrigerated at 4 superscripted-circle-sees, otherwise it'll go off.
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Why do Americans insist on saying "c-m" rather than "centimetres"? It's not as if they are generally in the habit of saying as little as possible.

I've heard it a few times recently and it seems to be a trend that really grates.
I'd never heard that until I watched that clip. It seems like a really weird thing to do to me.
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Do you drive 10 kay-ems to the supermarket to buy an el of milk? Make sure you keep it refrigerated at 4 superscripted-circle-sees, otherwise it'll go off.


Of course, kay-ems is used fairly abundantly as well--and even more common just k. Talk to any distance athlete and it's very common. Although generally speaking in my life, the cm scale is used a bit more than the km.


For degrees, yes, you would be correct there, but of course, it lacks a verbal shorthand, so describing the symbol would just be asinine.


edit: And also correct, l doesn't seem to be used at all in my experience either---I'm not defending the quirkiness of spoken English (and trying to make absolute rules in a language is just not realistic), just pointing out that certain things might sound odd to some, doesn't mean it's odd to all!


An example from my pov: I can't stand hearing or reading the term 'maths', but I do accept and respect that there are a few million people who choose to use this word.
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Why do Americans insist on saying "c-m" rather than "centimetres"? It's not as if they are generally in the habit of saying as little as possible.

I've heard it a few times recently and it seems to be a trend that really grates.
I'm American and I've never said it nor heard it being used. Sounds kind of douchey to me. The girl in the video said it correctly.

I do say cc's as opposed to cubic centimeters. Is that acceptable?
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I'm American and I've never said it nor heard it being used. Sounds kind of douchey to me. The girl in the video said it correctly.

I do say cc's as opposed to cubic centimeters. Is that acceptable?
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I'm American and have never heard anyone pronounce "cm" as individual letters when speaking aloud, but I have the good fortune to have completed high school...
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Re: Loads of snow: take care off piste

Well it seems that the consensus is in: cm, km, l, degrees (symbol) are unacceptably shorted in speech. cc however is still ok.


I will (and my colleagues) will still use the convention in our design projects, as we don't like having to properly spit out 4 syllables 20 odd times a minute.


but I digress...
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I will (and my colleagues) will still use the convention in our design projects, as we don't like having to properly spit out 4 syllables 20 odd times a minute.

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You use centimetres in design and not millimetres? How unusual.
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You use centimetres in design and not millimetres? How unusual.

You find that unusual? Must live a sheltered life



life pro-tip: some civil engineers use kilometers and some astronomers even use light years and parsecs!
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Well it seems that the consensus is in: cm, km, l, degrees (symbol) are unacceptably shorted in speech. cc however is still ok.


I will (and my colleagues) will still use the convention in our design projects, as we don't like having to properly spit out 4 syllables 20 odd times a minute.


but I digress...
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You use centimetres in design and not millimetres? How unusual.
You guys seem to be facing a challenging engineering problem within the metric system ...

....

1m=10dm (10e-1)
1m=100cm (10e-2)
1m=1000mm (10e-3)
1m=1000000um (10e-6)
1m=1000000000nm (10e-9)

....

and so on and so forth.

It all depends on the industry and units used within their processes e.g.

- in mechanical engineering and construction, they will use millimeters,
- at school in maths and physics subjects, they will most likely use them all,
- in chemical engineering or semiconductor wafer industry, they will use micro- and nano- meters.
- in nuclear physics, they will probably even talk piko-, femto- and atto- meters.

Therefore, they all find their use somewhere in different domains of life i.e. from distances covered in "km" to very small atomic distances measured in nucleus.

Anyhow, how is that going to help with skiing off piste?
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You find that unusual? Must live a sheltered life



life pro-tip: some civil engineers use kilometers and some astronomers even use light years and parsecs!
Who uses centimetres?
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Who uses centimetres?


Seriously? you want a specific answer to this?


You are going on like you feel that this unit of length is absolutely useless and should be eliminated!
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Seriously? you want a specific answer to this?
No, it's just my ignorance but I really have no idea who uses centimetres specifically.


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You are going on like you feel that this unit of length is absolutely useless and should be eliminated!
I was originally commenting on the verbal usage of of "cm" rather than centimetres.

It looks like everyone else who replied saw it the same way as me.

So yes, here at least you are in the minority.
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No, it's just my ignorance but I really have no idea who uses centimetres specifically.




I was originally commenting on the verbal usage of of "cm" rather than centimetres.

It looks like everyone else who replied saw it the same way as me.

So yes, here at least you are in the minority.

I already agreed I was in the minority----and noted that in an earlier message.


But I added that in certain fields it is used extensively and the pronunciation of 'c-m' is not only accepted but preferred--noting again that I am aware that my sample group is not representative of the EF consensus.
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Re: Loads of snow: take care off piste

Could you go and spoil the fun somewhere else but not in the skiing thread please ?
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Could you go and spoil the fun somewhere else but not in the skiing thread please ?


Good point! I tried digressing earlier, but the damage was already done.


Either way, looks like I'm heading to LAAX on Saturday for on-piste and Disentis on Sunday for off-piste.


Have to try out the new boots and they should have a few hundred new mm of snow! :P
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