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I'm 192cm tall as well and typically ride 20" frames. Are you sure you need a 23/24" frame? MTBs are typically fitted smaller than road bikes.

At our height, 29ers are a good option however don't discount a well fitted 26er.
A 'standard' measurement I always make is from the top of the saddle (where it intersects the line of the seat tube) to the peddle at the bottom position (also in line with seat tube). This measure, in my humble opinion, is a measure proportional to my leg-length and the only true evaluation of the size of a bike. For me this should be 102 cm. If then also the stearing can be at the same height as the saddle then I'm happy... just for curiosity sake, can you check your bike to see what this measure is ?
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Re: Canyon Bikes

But you can always get that length by moving the seat post irrespective of the frame size. I think what is important to know is the top tube length that fits you. Seat tube length would be mostly proportionate to this length and you can always adjust the seat post for accurate fitting.

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haha, new wife and 2 new bikes ... or two 2 wifes and one bike? hrmm...

the problem with the canyon is the brand to be honest... id be kind of embarrassed to bring one into my local bike store, or rip my local trails..

You must be kidding, man
On mtb-forum.it there's some pretty serious all-mountain / enduro riders (which I'm *not* just to make things clear) who rip on their Torques.
And who are still holding on to their '09-'10 workhorses.
And who hit the trails wothout becoming red-faced.

Of course the swiss-german élites will favour their custom made Nicolai / DeVinci / Liteville / Transition rides instead of mail-order Canyons and Rose Bikes, just like some folks will still not be happy if they're not driving the most expensive beemer / merc / audi /porsche

enjoy yr trails and your rides - that's what is *really* important

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Canyon are frequently voted test group winners by major MTB sites... no idea what you would be embarassed about.
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But you can always get that length by moving the seat post irrespective of the frame size. I think what is important to know is the top tube length that fits you. Seat tube length would be mostly proportionate to this length and you can always adjust the seat post for accurate fitting.

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I don'tknow, my current 22" MTB (biggest I could find) needed an extended seatpost to get it upto my length. And as far as steering goes, you can always buy a different length / angle handlebar holder
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Eurobike is on!


Let's keep an eye open for leaks on new Canyon bikes!
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Eurobike is on!


Let's keep an eye open for leaks on new Canyon bikes!
I'm expecting Eire to post lots of pictures and info ! please please please ?
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Re: Canyon Bikes

Try using a good bicycle frame size calculator to estimate what is best for you. In fact height and inseam length only do not guarantee a proper fit.

I'm 183cm and ride 18-19" bikes and this is also the recommendation I consistently get from online calculators.

Try this, it will consider many more parameters than only your height and inseam:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...LCULATOR_INTRO

Of empirical measures:

If you stand over a bike, you should have approx 10cm space between the top tube and your sensitive parts. Not more or less really.

A quick and reliable way to verify if the bike fits for length is to sit on properly adjusted saddle as you would normally ride and see if the steering bar aligns with the front wheel hub.

If you see the hub in front of the bar, the bike is short (and therefore also more controllable). If the hub is seen behind the bar, this means your position is stretched (faster ride, good for uphill, but generally less control and comfort).

I would highly recommend an all-mountain style bike with adjustable front suspension travel. A good fit will mean you can either have a faster "marathon" style bike with travel set at minimum, a more controllable "downhill" style bike at maximum travel, or a somewhat perfect balance in the middle setting.
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I'm expecting Eire to post lots of pictures and info ! please please please ?
No need!
It's all officially published:

http://www.canyon.com/_en/eurobike20...tainbikes.html



There's too much choices for the NERVE XC 2012. Too much choice is annoying!!
How do you know between the chameleon, the climber, the low gear,etc...
EDIT: They made mistakes when publishing the bikes names. They wrongly named the torque, strive, nerve am, nerve MR into nerve XC.

It's all corrected now. They actually simplified the nerve XC range, 1 less "sub model".


Otherwise they are very very nice looking!

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Re: Canyon Bikes

From Eurobike.

29er's were everywhere.
Canyon have started powder coating their MTB's, they've got the anodised accents on nearly all of them now. Hammerscmidts are back for Canyon. A few of the display bikes were sporting them.
Electro mountain bikes!

Loads of brands only focusing on bikes up to about 140-150mm of travel with XC angles and totally forgetting about the Enduro market... or their All mountain/Enduro bikes have a 69deg head angle!

Specialized make you check in a second time before they'll even let you get on their stand.

Trek and Scott have a really neat OEM reverb for their bikes next year with internal routing and the hose plugs into the bottom of the seat post... i.e. no hose running up the inside of your leg.

KS, are doing a dropper post for 2012 where the hose mounts to the lower part rather than the dropper part of the post. Should do the same thing as the OEM reverb for those of us who are not buying a new Scott or Trek. The action (at least on the ones in the show) seemed as good as the reverb (i.e. better than current KS's) but only time and a proper test will tell if this can be carried onto the trail.

Shimano's XTR shadow plus rear mech is a amazing. I've actually got to test this in real life and it leaves every other dérailleur I've ever used in the shadows. I can't comment on reliability, and when riding in really nasty conditions last weekend it did get a bit stiff to shift to a lower gear, but these were extreme conditions (snow and rivers of meltwater!) and I'm hoping a quick service will have it running like day 1 again. It's a strange experience to ride a bike that has no drag on the chain line from a chain guide... and no chain slap noise at all!

The show is huge, getting around everything in one day is nigh on impossible.
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No need!
It's all officially published:

http://www.canyon.com/_en/eurobike20...tainbikes.html

a Grand Canyon AL 8 runs at around 1700 euro, can you imagine what the 29-er version will costs, definately too much for me Why not a AL 6 or a Yellowstone 29-er ?

Will be a Trek 29-er for me then...
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From Eurobike.

Hammerscmidts are back for Canyon.
I think they had them on 3 models in 2011, but I'm glad to see they are persisting with the Hammerschmidts. I have one on my bike (not a Canyon) and I like it. If they keep selling them, they'll continue to develop and support this (niche) product.
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From Eurobike.

Shimano's XTR shadow plus rear mech is a amazing. I've actually got to test this in real life and it leaves every other dérailleur I've ever used in the shadows. I can't comment on reliability, and when riding in really nasty conditions last weekend it did get a bit stiff to shift to a lower gear, but these were extreme conditions (snow and rivers of meltwater!) and I'm hoping a quick service will have it running like day 1 again. It's a strange experience to ride a bike that has no drag on the chain line from a chain guide... and no chain slap noise at all!
Fitting mine tonight! "Old" 10sp XTR mech will come to the TP as a spare for Team SAA.
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From Eurobike.

29er's were everywhere.
Canyon have started powder coating their MTB's, they've got the anodised accents on nearly all of them now. Hammerscmidts are back for Canyon. A few of the display bikes were sporting them.
Electro mountain bikes!
Canyon have also made a new "saddle stick"! Something flexible to add comfort.
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...in-bikes-31539

Otherwise they displayed the most expensive models so we would need to wait to know the exact specs.

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what is a Hammerschmidt and why would I get excited about one
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what is a Hammerschmidt and why would I get excited about one
It's a stuff for changing gears:
http://www.magicmechanics.com/home.p.../all_mountain/
(I just googled it)...
Look for the "specs"...

or
http://www.magicmechanics.com/home.p.../how_it_works/
I still did not get it though
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what is a Hammerschmidt and why would I get excited about one
I don't know why you would, but why it excites me is...
  • Quick gear changes
  • You can change gears under load - e.g. you're cranking uphill (or downhill) and in the wrong gear
  • You can change gears while coasting (although I don't see that as much advantage compared to the point above)
  • No front derailleur/single chain line, so no having to worry about cross-chaining
  • Overall far fewer worries about chains falling off, breaking etc.
  • Better ground clearance - less chance of banging into rocks
Hammerschmidt replaces the crankset, shifters and front derailleur, if I'm not mistaken. I'm no bike mechanic - I just like not having to think about, or be impeded by, my chain when I'm riding.

There are disadvantages too. Slight weight penalty, some pedalling inefficiency in higher gears (never noticed it much myself), expensive, will not fit to most frames.
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Re: Canyon Bikes

After seeing this ad on the Horgen-Meilen ferry I decided I will buy a Price-bike
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Also, as you hinted at in your post, you can arrange with Canyon to pick up the bike from a UPS Delivery Centre nearer to our border. I e-mailed them earlier this year and they offered this as an alternative to having a German address. This would be a handy alternative for anyone who doesn't fancy the drive to Koblenz.

Oh, and another tip - as it's approaching the end of the season they will almost certainly start a sale soon, perhaps 1st September (although someone else may remember when the sale started last year). If they still have a stock of 2011 bikes - you should get a good discount.

Any ideas on where the UPS delivery centre is? I've just ordered a Nerve AM 6.0 and was planning to go collect it but would be happy with a shortened drive if possible as I have to go there and back in a day...
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Re: Canyon Bikes

Those are actually listed in the German version of ordering FAQ:
http://www.canyon.com/service/faq.html?c=4
UPS Kunden-Center: Im Stöckacker 18, 79224 Umkirch
UPS Kunden-Center: Wellendingerstr. 1A, 78665 Frittlingen
UPS Kunden-Center: Zeppelinstr. 8, 87435 Kempten
UPS Kunden-Center: Benzstr. 1, 88094 Neuhaus
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