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Flyfishing Switzerland

Petri Heil to all

I'm a very avid flyfisherman, so if any of you shares the same passion this is the place we can first meet, talk and plan fishing.
I fly fished a few times here in Switzerland and I was all alone. Would like to have the company or thoughts of any fisher willing to share them, if any on this forum.

I also have experience in teaching, so if you haven't got a clue but sounds interesting and challenging for you, I'd be happy to help.

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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

I am also an avid fly fisherman and I'm told there are lots of opportunities in CH but have yet to experience them (plus the permits in some cantons are prohibitive).

I usually travel now for bonefish and larger blue water species but would be interested in CH too.
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Jon is your man

http://have-a-go-flyfishing.com/default.aspx

Knows all there is to know regarding fly fishing in CH
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

yeah, right now most of the rivers are closed for fishing due to the trout reproducing period. They will reopen it in March-April. But still you can find lakes and rivers that fishing is permitted all year long for different species.
3 days ago I fished in Alte Aare(kanton Bern) for Gray-ling. Was wonderful. I caught some nice ones and also a Brown Trout witch of course I released.
So fishing is a year round activity here, you just have to look a bit more for waters in winter, but who can complain, they're plenty to find.
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

There are some great places to fly fish here in CH, loads of them I haven't managed to get to and try yet. Every canton has its own rules and regulations on top of the state regulations which does make it difficult to access some waters. Radman, you should check the canton Bern regulations for fishing for Grayling, I think you will find it is still not allowed until 2011. However, if you go to another canton you may be ok, depending on which canton...
If you take the CH fishing test this will give you the possibilty to buy a permit for cantonal waters where the canton only issues month or year tickets.
Babuyagu, if like fishing for the more exotic take a look at this link

www.aguaboaamazonlodge.com

Thanks Thalwiler

Tight lines

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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

I'll be spending the off season tying flies, but as spring comes around, I'm going to be doing some combination hiking/fly fishing trips to some alpine lakes, some float tube trips, and a trip or two to Austria or France, plus a few days in the US where the fishing is phenomenal. Lots of brown and brook trout, and tons of eager small- and largemouth bass when the trout are being too picky. 2010 is going to be a good year.
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

my tying bench is already in full flow, great big streamers for the Peacock Bass in Brazil, down to some size 16 & 18 dries for the mountain streams over here. Every year is a good year if it includes days on/in the water

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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Thanks Jon, I would love to try the Amazon, although Tiger Fish are higher on our list and also Patagonia.

I would highly recommend the last 2 places I fished: Los Roques, Venezuela and St. Joseph's (liveaboard required) in the Seychelles (photos here).

I do find trout and salmon a little tame as a result but the arc of the line is more inviting than no fishing at all!

I am looking for CH possibilities in Valais but think I too am subject to having to take a test (despite 34 years experience!), which is putting me off as I am only a casual freshwater fisherman, be nice to cast a line one a month though.

Paul
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

No peacock bass for me yet, but I did catch metre-long Leopard Sharks on self-tied clousers from the surf in California on my 8 weight.
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Hi Paul

Bonefish have to be next on my list and I am already making enquiries. I have several contacts through my work with the lodge in the amazon, so I am weighing up my options for next year. Great pics, thanks for the link.

I still can't resist the mountain streams over here, 3# bamboo rod for small wild brownies on the dry fly...does it get any better.

The CH test is not as bad as it seems, ok it takes a bit of time because of the language thing.
If you need any help with a Tiger Fish trip drop me a PM as I know someone out in SA that may be able to help, not sure but I can ask.

Cheers

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No peacock bass for me yet, but I did catch metre-long Leopard Sharks on self-tied clousers from the surf in California on my 8 weight.
There is definitely something extra when you catch fish on flies you've tied yourself...can't rememder the last time I bought a fly.
Shark on the fly, now that sounds impressive. I thought the Piranhas were little blighters for chomping up flies!

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There are some great places to fly fish here in CH, loads of them I haven't managed to get to and try yet. Every canton has its own rules and regulations on top of the state regulations which does make it difficult to access some waters. Radman, you should check the canton Bern regulations for fishing for Grayling, I think you will find it is still not allowed until 2011. However, if you go to another canton you may be ok, depending on which canton...
If you take the CH fishing test this will give you the possibilty to buy a permit for cantonal waters where the canton only issues month or year tickets.
Babuyagu, if like fishing for the more exotic take a look at this link

www.aguaboaamazonlodge.com

Thanks Thalwiler

Tight lines

Jon
Thanks Jon for the advices,
Yeah, 100 laws on top of another 100 for the same thing. Might get really confusing here in Switzerland. Because I know that I always check the local laws before going fishing to one place.
It is also as I thought I knew it with the Grayling in canton Bern, not beeing allowed to be fished till 2011. But checking the internet I found Alte Aare which is opened for Grayling till end of December. Strange thing made me wonder, so I picked up the phone and made a call to the Fischereiverein in canton Bern. They confirmed that in Alte Aare is OK to fish for the Grayling. And also I extra asked in the shop where I bought my day-license from. All were giving me green-light so I stayed on the legal side.

I took the CH fishing test a month ago,soon after I moved here. But for me, to buy right now the cantonal permit doesn't really help cause it's end of the year. I'll just apply for the next year. Till than, the day permits work just fine.

Tight loops,
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Hi Radu

thanks for the update on the regulations, they are forever changing the rules. I buy the year permit every year for canton Bern, even though I have to pay double because I don't live in the canton!

I may just head down there before the end of December

Tight loops & tight lines

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Hi Radu

thanks for the update on the regulations, they are forever changing the rules. I buy the year permit every year for canton Bern, even though I have to pay double because I don't live in the canton!

I may just head down there before the end of December

Tight loops & tight lines

Jon
No problem, they sure make you read a lot before going fishing. I really don't know if you fished Alte Aare before, but if you think of going, I fished the river lenght next to Lyss and Aarberg. Has some nice deep rapids. Although you have a couple of hundred meters between them.
And if you like having company I'll be so happy to join if you let me know when.

Radu
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Radu

no I haven't fished that part before, it would be good to meet up. I'll drop you a pm and maybe we can organise something

Cheers

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No peacock bass for me yet, but I did catch metre-long Leopard Sharks on self-tied clousers from the surf in California on my 8 weight.
Excellent! My father caught an alligator of the Florida Keys a few years back in similar cirsumstances - funny only after it tried to eat him and failed.

We regularly caught white tips (sharks) on live bonefish caught on self tied christmas island oranges in the Seychelles . Needless to say, we didn't quite land the sharks.

And in Venezuela last year the order of the day was Seagull on gummy minnows if you did too many false casts.
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Hi Paul

Bonefish have to be next on my list and I am already making enquiries. I have several contacts through my work with the lodge in the amazon, so I am weighing up my options for next year. Great pics, thanks for the link.

I still can't resist the mountain streams over here, 3# bamboo rod for small wild brownies on the dry fly...does it get any better.

The CH test is not as bad as it seems, ok it takes a bit of time because of the language thing.
If you need any help with a Tiger Fish trip drop me a PM as I know someone out in SA that may be able to help, not sure but I can ask.

Cheers

Jon
Bonefish are changing from year to year and my group have fished just about every venue, including the new ones, a lot are now overfished. Drop me a PM if you have some destination choices for opinions. Two big concerns are - no full moons while you are there and ask for water levels at the time you visit - we've been stung twice getting this wrong and it ruins your trip.

I can take the test in French, it is not a problem, just getting off my lazy backside to find the time given that I know I will not fish much in CH.

When you've had a 12ft sailfish on the fly, it all feels a bit weird at 3# but I can still see the appeal.

Be good to meet up for a fishing chat - I miss it!

All the best,

Paul
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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

Hi Paul

Thanks for the advice. I have several options/locations in the Bahamas which I need to look in to, and also a recommendation for the Seychelles. I have been told that now (ish) till March is good in the Seychelles, this time is very difficult for me because it is the season for the Lodge in Brasil so it will probably have to be the Bahamas or somewhere else. Take a look at this link, these are some of the options I have and I know the bloke as he is an agent for the Lodge I work for http://www.anglingdestinations.com/Destinations.php

It would be good to meet up for fishing chat, are you ever round Zug/Zurich way?

woops, we seem to have gone off topic a bit here. I'll send you a PM

Cheers

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Re: Flyfishing Switzerland

So, in the few times I've been on the local rivers, I've never seen anyone of authority - game warden, fisheries constable, etc. Who patrols the waters to make sure people are duly licensed and aren't poaching and/or keeping undersized fish?
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The wardens (Fischereiaufseher) are certainly out there, you just haven't come across them yet. On a lot of the rivers the members of the local club keep an eye out as well.
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