erm...can you andermatt lovers tell me what you like about that place?
the pistes? or is it a good spot for ski/boarding tours? good offpiste region? where?

been there twice and i cant get it? this one gondola going up to the first station is a nightmare! the 2nd one up too! the t-bar lifts are way too many! so...the massive effort driving there, waiting ages to get up and then those few pistes... bollocks deluxe! whats it then?

I've only been there a couple of times; both midweek. I can imagine it being not so fun on a weekend having to wait for the trams, etc.,... I have only heard people raving about Andermatt for the off-piste. The off-piste is pretty damn good on the Gemstock and the potential for further tours is good as well. You'll need a guide or someone that has been before though to show you the way. As for the pistes, I thought that the ones on the Gemstock were pretty sucky but it was quite icy that day. The pistes on the Oberalp/Sedrun region seemed like decent intermediate runs though.

The Gemstock runs are pretty good, good descents, the off piste is one of the best´s in Switzerland
in my opinion is one of the best stations in Switzerland, and its never crowded

thought so as the dumps of snow coming down each season are awesome and it must be offpiste what people like as the pistes are very shice...

Remember that the Andermatt region is not only Gemstock and Oberalp!!!

Personally, I find Andermatt one of the best resorts I have ever been to, with reasonable prices for S/R and lots of on/off piste possibilities. I skied in Sedrun/Oberalp only once but it did not give me much thrill despite epic train ride with Matterhornbahnen. I like going there during week days when there're less people and I can get to Gemstock more often than not. Not only black/red runs but also free-ride area with huge moguls is my kind of thing. However I won't turn down any weekends offers even if I will mange to use the cable car only once or twice. The only thing that I dislike is the infractructure of the first lift. I hate the long walk, it could have been situated closer to the main train station.

The wife and I explored a nice place yesterday. You have to pay 7 CHF to the farmers that own the lifts to get a ride up. We skinned up above the top lift and got a 1300 meter descent back to the car.

Parking was convenient. The mail lady gave us the post for the farmers that live at the first stop.


Top station:


Fresh tracks up:


and fresh tracks down:

Patxi - where is that? (assuming you want to tell people)

Is this where we play guess the location and the closest person gets the prize of Patxi's list of secret powder stashes?

Patxi, that looks way cool. perfect spot for Chinese Downhill...

Okay, I soooo wanted to groan at that - only through sheer jealousy...

Chinese downhill??

Don't Ask!

From the best ski movie ever, Hot Dog.

Whata the a is a Chinese Downhill?

I could be wrong, but I think I see the Hahnen in the second picture. I'm going to guess its the Fürenalp lift in Engelberg.

I think you have the region right! But I'm not sure about the lift.

As far as I remember though there are a couple of other tiny lifts like that near Engelberg which are not on the piste map. I think its one of those.

Only Patxi can tell for sure.

Wrong. You can see the Hahnen and the Fürenalp in the photo though.

Awesome, thanks for the clue!

You've got to admit, I was pretty damn close, though.

It's not the Alplerseilbahn, so that's me stumped.

Titlis side of the valley, right? I can't think of any other lifts over there.

I am impressed that you guessed the Hahnen but not so impressed that you thought it was the Fuerenalp.

Another clue: You can also see the Titlis in the photo.