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23.05.2011, 11:24
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| | | Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
Crude translation of the article on 20min.ch
Hilarious nontheless... Sex Education Campaign in Swiss Schools Causes OUTRAGE!! Students who play with Holzpenissen and Kindergärtler that massage each other: offensive sex education is actually in school - and separates the spirits.
(Seperates the spirit is a german play on words which is clearly lost in translation)
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23.05.2011, 11:48
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Mmmm... Cake.
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23.05.2011, 12:09
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
dude... WTF!! NSFW! NSFW! | | The following 2 users would like to thank Ouchboy for this useful post: | | 
23.05.2011, 12:46
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
Confronting kids between the ages of 4-7 with the pleasure aspect of sex is too early in my opinion. Just explain them how babies are made in child friendly pictures (instead of using wooden and plush imitations of genitals).
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23.05.2011, 13:07
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
If it's suitable for Kindergarten surely it's suitable for work... | Quote: | |  | | | dude... WTF!! NSFW! NSFW! | | | | | | | The following 8 users would like to thank The_Love_Doctor for this useful post: | | 
23.05.2011, 13:13
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
The kids massage each others with sex toys and separates spirits?
They start early nowadays!!!
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23.05.2011, 13:23
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
You mean "Mmmm cherry pie!!"? | Quote: | |  | | | Mmmm... Cake. | | | | | | 
23.05.2011, 13:41
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
I saw this in 20 minutes and thought there must be something wrong with my eyes. I'm all for sex education and teaching kids about the human body, but honestly I find this method (and those toys  ) kind of sick.
At that age shouldn't they be learning how to wait their turn, stand in line, share, accept difference, use their inside voices... but then that would be a little too revolutionary wouldn't it? | | The following 3 users would like to thank kslausanne for this useful post: | | 
23.05.2011, 13:57
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
I also read it in 20minuten this morning and find it bit disturbing; i find the idea of starting with sex education at that age quite early and kids massaging each other?!
The other interesting bit is how such an idea came to be in a conservative society like the Swiss (ok it is only planned to be introduced in Basel at the moment)
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23.05.2011, 14:06
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
I kind of want one of the cuddly willies.
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23.05.2011, 14:17
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | Just explain them how babies are made in child friendly pictures (instead of using wooden and plush imitations of genitals). | | | | | They were imitations? Really? I was actually amazed by their lifelike similarities. Strangest looking doughnut I ever saw, probably not a "Dunkin' Donut" variety however.
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23.05.2011, 14:26
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | I saw this in 20 minutes and thought there must be something wrong with my eyes. I'm all for sex education and teaching kids about the human body, but honestly I find this method (and those toys ) kind of sick. | | | | | The article is pure anger porn.
There is apparently a new guideline which has been developed with quite some research. The article reduces it to the pleasure part and the toys... not to report on an outrage, but to generate an outrage. Bad and biased pseudo-journalism.
Not sure about you guys, but while we had sex-education with some decades old materials in fifth grade or so did nobody learn something there: The stuff we were taught we all already knew and the stuff we were not taught we learned thanks to teenage magazines that did not only show plush toys... since then the internet arrived and offers far more explicit stuff for free and easily accessible. In short: If you don't teach them, they will find out themselves online. I think I prefer the plush vagina option.
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23.05.2011, 14:36
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | There is apparently a new guideline which has been developed with quite some research. The article reduces it to the pleasure part and the toys... not to report on an outrage, but to generate an outrage. Bad and biased pseudo-journalism. | | | | | We are talking about 20 Minutes... The same newspaper that a couple of months ago had printed in gigantic letters "Foreigners are deadly on the roads" with great pie charts showing how ex-Yugoslavians are deadly, Germans speed, Portuguese make dangerous manouvers, etc. Then in a tiny little letters, condensed into a 2x3 cm text box, they mention the Swiss are by far the highest percentage of people caught driving with high percentage of alchool in the blood. I actually have that great piece of Journalism still at home...
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23.05.2011, 15:29
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
Aren't they all part of the same TA Media group ?
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23.05.2011, 15:36
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | I think I prefer the plush vagina option. | | | | | Quoted for posterity.
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23.05.2011, 15:54
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
a classic example of the decadence of Western society and its eventual demise...
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23.05.2011, 17:41
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | a classic example of the decadence of Western society and its eventual demise... | | | | | You mean the outrage at the sex education?
Continuation of life is more important than decadence. Without the former you cannot have the later.
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23.05.2011, 17:45
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style] | Quote: | |  | | | You mean the outrage at the sex education?
Continuation of life is more important than decadence. Without the former you cannot have the later. | | | | | I suspect it's better that girls get their education by being raped by their cousin/husband. It's much better than being informed.
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
Just a little tweak or two and we could be talking about our fav internet forum... | Quote: | |  | | | The post is pure anger porn.
There is apparently a new guideline which has been developed with quite some research. The article reduces it to the pleasure part and the toys... not to report on an outrage, but to generate an outrage. Bad and biased pseudo-trolling. | | | | | | 
23.05.2011, 18:09
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| | | Re: Swiss OUTRAGE: Sex Education [Swiss Style]
They could have done better job with those replicas. On the other hand, if the work was too real looking, I bet kids would go home and compare, get self esteem issues, size comparison....
Why have toys, though, why aren't good ilustrations in books enough? It does look revolting. I am glad I am not sex ed teacher. I do think kids can see for themselves, or will look online as soon as they are able to. Plus toys are a tad ott. And while we do intruduce honestly and real answers, to have this at school at the age of 4, I am not sure how I feel about this.
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