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I don't think team USA would be that bad, besides they've done far better than England recently without much interest at home.

Meanwhile, the third world football condeferations are living up to their third world view of corruption. CAF and AFC have already said nothing should be changed and everything should carry on as before.
Why does everyone think the Danes and Kiwis are always so bloody holier-than-though?
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Why does everyone think the Danes and Kiwis are always so bloody holier-than-though?
Because they're clever enough only to use cash, no wire-transfers.
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Why does everyone think the Danes and Kiwis are always so bloody holier-than-though?
The Kiwis certainly play dirty when it comes to rugby!

Meanwhile, Uefa won't boycott tomorrow's vote. Shouldn't forget that Platini also voted for Qatar to host.
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Old 28.05.2015, 15:50
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Meanwhile, the third world football condeferations are living up to their third world view of corruption. CAF and AFC have already said nothing should be changed and everything should carry on as before.
As each country has equal voting power, it is logical that the powers that be would seek to influence some of the more cash-strapped nations. A greater number of small nations can out-vote a few powerful rich ones
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Old 28.05.2015, 15:56
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As each country has equal voting power, it is logical that the powers that be would seek to influence some of the more cash-strapped nations. A greater number of small nations can out-vote a few powerful rich ones
Exactly, the whole system is a farce. What the bloody hell has Guinea-Bissau or Thailand ever contributed to world football? Yet their vote is somehow worth as much as Italy's or Germany's. Blatter consolidated his power a long time ago by fellating these small nations. If Uefa up sticks and left, FIFA would be screwed, I can't understand why they just don't do it.
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Exactly, the whole system is a farce. What the bloody hell has Guinea-Bissau or Thailand ever contributed to world football? Yet their vote is somehow worth as much as Italy's or Germany's. Blatter consolidated his power a long time ago by fellating these small nations. If Uefa up sticks and left, FIFA would be screwed, I can't understand why they just don't do it.
Very interesting in comparison with hockey (yes, I'm Canadian, this is the best analogy I can muster).

Where the NHL calls the shots and the IIHF usually has to bend the knee and follow. Other than some claims of corruption in the referees in the IIHF, there's more complains of the money-making market based decisions of the NHL rather that enjoyment of the sport.

Sorta off topic, but I'm genuinely intrigued by this whole fiasco and the global football phenomenon in general.
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Old 28.05.2015, 16:25
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Exactly, the whole system is a farce. What the bloody hell has Guinea-Bissau or Thailand ever contributed to world football? Yet their vote is somehow worth as much as Italy's or Germany's. Blatter consolidated his power a long time ago by fellating these small nations. If Uefa up sticks and left, FIFA would be screwed, I can't understand why they just don't do it.
Perhaps the votes should come from representatives of each professional team. That would balance it more. Also with many more voters, it would be harder to influence the vote
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Old 28.05.2015, 17:57
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BREAKING: Swiss Police confirm that, when arrested, all seven FIFA officials threw themselves on the ground and pretended to be injured
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

With all the allegations of corruption, I'd like to ask; is FIFA really mismanaged? Apart from corrupt fat cats, who should be put away, has the sport really been hurt? Has Blatter truly been a bad leader? How? And what are the alternatives?
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American atheletes doping has exactly what do to with bidding for major sporting events?

Does anyone remember the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics bid revelations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Wi...ic_bid_scandal
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Old 28.05.2015, 19:07
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Even England hosting the World Cup in 1966 wasn't without controversy. Somehow all their games were drawn to be played at Wembley Stadium
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Old 28.05.2015, 22:04
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

No offence to our Swiss members, but this is such a quintessentially Swiss attitude. Other people were doing wrong, nothing to do with me.. now come on lets change the subject

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Fifa president Sepp Blatter has condemned the "action of individuals" for bringing "shame and humiliation" on football in a corruption scandal.
But he said that although many held him "ultimately responsible" for the football community, he could "not monitor everyone all of the time".
He was speaking at the opening of Fifa's congress, a day after seven top officials were held in a US inquiry.

Many of Fifa's major sponsors have expressed concern over twin corruption investigations by both the US and Swiss authorities.

Speaking at the opening ceremony of the Fifa congress in Zurich, Mr Blatter said the events of the week had "cast a long shadow over football".
In his first public appearance since the scandal broke, he said: "The actions of individuals bring shame and humiliation on football and demand action and change from us all.

An astonishing speech from Sepp Blatter: 17 years as Fifa president but when it comes to corruption he cannot "monitor everyone all the time".
He did say the allegations had brought "shame and humiliation" (words, cynics might say, that are not normally in his vocabulary) to football, but he did not mention the fact that a great many people, from David Cameron to Uefa boss Michel Platini have called on him to resign.

Instead he addressed the future, secure in his own personal conviction that he has a future in Fifa. It was time to change, "for football, for the world, for peace". Then he swept out again, to the strains of the Fifa anthem. On Friday, he stands for re-election. And he's likely to win.

We cannot allow the reputation of football and Fifa to be dragged through the mud and it has to stop here and now.
"Many people hold me ultimately responsible for the... global football community... I cannot monitor everyone all of the time. If people want to do wrong they will also try to hide it."
But he added: "It must fall to me to bear the responsibility for the reputation and well-being of our organisation and to find a way forward to fix things."
Mr Blatter admitted the "next few months will not be easy - I am sure bad news will follow" but that with Friday's vote, "we have the opportunity to begin on what will be a long and difficult road to rebuilding trust".

Mr Blatter had faced calls to resign, including from UK PM David Cameron and the head of European football's governing body Uefa, Michel Platini.
Mr Platini had earlier taken part in an emergency meeting with other Fifa confederation heads and Mr Blatter.

Mr Platini said he had asked Mr Blatter "as a friend" to resign, saying: "I have had enough - enough is enough, too much is too much."
The president refused, and the other confederations agreed with him that Friday's vote, in which Mr Blatter is seeking a fifth term, should go ahead.

Uefa will back Jordan's Prince Ali bin al-Hussein, Mr Blatter's only challenger.
Mr Platini said that if Mr Blatter won, Uefa could hold an extraordinary meeting in Berlin at the time of the Champions League final.
When asked if this could include withdrawing from Fifa competitions, Mr Platini said: "We will raise all possibilities."
Britain's David Gill said he would not take up his post on Fifa's executive committee if Mr Blatter were re-elected.

Some of the 14 people indicted on Wednesday in the US investigation are accused of receiving bribes to influence the outcome of bids to stage football tournaments, such as the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and the 2016 Copa America in the US.

South African government officials have denied the claim.
Fifa on Wednesday provisionally banned from football-related activity 11 of the 14 people charged in the US. On Thursday it added another, Aaron Davidson.
Fifa's major sponsors Coca-Cola, Visa, Adidas, McDonald's, Hyundai Motor and Budweiser are pressing Fifa to take immediate action to restore its reputation.
Swiss prosecutors plan to interview 10 Fifa executive committee members as part of a separate investigation into the bidding process for the World Cup tournaments in 2018 in Russia and 2022 in Qatar.

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Old 28.05.2015, 23:03
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No offence to our Swiss members, but this is such a quintessentially Swiss attitude. Other people were doing wrong, nothing to do with me.. now come on lets change the subject.
To be fair, the Swiss and their media tend to hate him as much as the rest of the West and western media.
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With all the allegations of corruption, I'd like to ask; is FIFA really mismanaged? Apart from corrupt fat cats, who should be put away, has the sport really been hurt? Has Blatter truly been a bad leader? How? And what are the alternatives?
Qatar hosting 2022 definitely hurts the sport. A country with no football culture, the native population on its own wouldn't even fill all the planned stadia even if everybody went to a match. The steady drumbeat of how the construction workers are being treated will last for another seven years, and associate the game with quasi-slavery.

If Putin gets more belligerent there are bound to be calls for European nations to boycott the 2018 cup.

That said, this will be the western perspective. The countries benefiting from Blatter`s corrupt style are going to re-elect him. All of Africa is solidly behind him for the money, and the view there is that South Africa would never had the chance to host without Blatter. Hes the guy who brought it to Africa.
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With all the allegations of corruption, I'd like to ask; is FIFA really mismanaged? Apart from corrupt fat cats, who should be put away, has the sport really been hurt? Has Blatter truly been a bad leader? How? And what are the alternatives?
Biggest issue is the fans have been hurt.
Who pays for the corruption?

The fans who buy the tickets that include all the corruption costs.

Blatter's role should be to ensure all genuine fans can attend the games at reasonable costs, not subsidise the fat cats.
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To be fair, the Swiss and their media tend to hate him as much as the rest of the West and western media.
You obviously didn't have the pleasure of watching the main Swiss news at 7:30 pm on SF1 and either the main German news at 7 pm on ZDF or at 8pm on ARD. You'd have believed that the Swiss reporter covered another story, which just happened to feature a guy with the same name.
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He should take some responsibility and quit.
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Qatar hosting 2022 definitely hurts the sport. A country with no football culture, the native population on its own wouldn't even fill all the planned stadia even if everybody went to a match. The steady drumbeat of how the construction workers are being treated will last for another seven years, and associate the game with quasi-slavery.

If Putin gets more belligerent there are bound to be calls for European nations to boycott the 2018 cup.

That said, this will be the western perspective. The countries benefiting from Blatter`s corrupt style are going to re-elect him. All of Africa is solidly behind him for the money, and the view there is that South Africa would never had the chance to host without Blatter. Hes the guy who brought it to Africa.
I don't really umderstand how those decisions were made, but is it an issue of political correctness? Do you mean that FIFA should be using its clout to advance a politcal agenda, whether positive or what?

As an Organization, hasn't FIFA flourished, its holdings growing into the billions, allowing it to finance construction and development projcts, as well as educstional projects?

In other words, what was FiFA suppose to and not suppose to have done under Blatter?

I hear the chorus singing the "Corruption!" rephrase, yet I don't really umderstand what that actual corruption has been. I would also point out that corruption is quite rampant in the world with or without FIFA.
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Biggest issue is the fans have been hurt.
Who pays for the corruption?

The fans who buy the tickets that include all the corruption costs.

Blatter's role should be to ensure all genuine fans can attend the games at reasonable costs, not subsidise the fat cats.
How have the fans been hurt? They buy tickets, they wach their game, their teams win or lose, they scream during goals. Isn't that what they pay for? Is it by high ticket prices?
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I watched the last FIFA Congress voting live to see England's representative's speech criticising Blatter and the set up where he replied begging the English FA to stop upsetting the FIFA 'family' and criticising his organisation.


I can't remember which channel I watched on-line but there might be a few more interesting critical speeches ahead of the voting this year streamed live on the FIFA website tomorrow:
http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news/...m-2607376.html
unless they've decided to abandon it this year.

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