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Old 08.06.2015, 03:19
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The Compliance guy arranging the clean up, Domenico Scala, seemed to say that due to FIFA rules and to allow for Presidential campaigns to get going before an extraordinary congress, the election will take place between December this year and March next year.
That might allow Blatter just sufficient time for all that shredding. or maybe a face lift to run under another guise or buy his own island with no extradition agreements with the USA?
Any other good suggestions how Blatter could best use the following 7+ months?

More FIFA waste with the cost of another unnecessary congress (that could have been avoided if Blatter had retired at a normal age) with private jets, hotels, brown envelopes and hookers etc etc.

But Domenico Scala's action items did seem sensible (while DeGregorio's face afterwards seemed full of anger).
Here is some info from ESPN on the guy in FIFA reponsible for reform Domenico Scala:
http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup...domenico-scala

But I pointed out earlier in this thread that the Salt Lake City debacle forced the International Olympic Committee to reform vigorously over a 1 million US Dollar bribe.
One of the IOC reformers suggests FIFA might be too far gone to be able to reform effectively:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...ndal-fifa.html

I think it is too late to reform from within. Four years ago Blatter promised to reform and the resulting report was muzzled.
Too many delegates are ingrained sycophants (maybe not all but too many going by the Blatter election votes he received - I gather possibly due to block votes). I think you would have to sack every country's FIFA representative member and somehow get fresh blood through interviews & background checks based around integrity and passion for grass roots football enthusiasm to overhaul FIFA now. And that (or something as drastic) is just not realistically going to happen. So I would propose shutting down the FIFA organisation, demolishing its ivory castle HQ and starting afresh in a new country/continent free of corruption.
I guess most football lovers would have similar sentiments???
No one loves/likes/takes seriously/doesn't laugh in incredulity at FIFA except FIFA itself.
If FIFA isn't shut down I suggest renaming it World Tournament Football (WTF).

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Old 08.06.2015, 03:25
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Is it? The FBI papers seems to show it is mostly in US banks?
I think (not positive) the money passes through US accounts as a conduit but doesn't sit in the accounts for that long (a la Father Ted 'simply resting' in the account).
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Old 08.06.2015, 12:51
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Maybe he's thinking ten metres means ten FEET.
3 m (10 ft) if not lethal will likely lead to a prolonged hospital visit...

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3 m (10 ft) if not lethsl will likrly lead to a prolonged hospitsl visit...
Is it turn-off-autocorrect day?
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Old 08.06.2015, 13:32
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Is it turn-off-autocorrect day?
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Old 08.06.2015, 13:48
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Germany in "Arbeitsunfallgeschehen 2011" reports 1472 cases of "falling off of roofs, terraces, glass roofs, attics, and Dachlauf". 16 were deadly.

But obviously people will believe what they want to believe.
Meh... you say potato... you'd need to qualify the height. My house at its apex is 10m - that's 3 floors with room to spare. Terraces, attics etc. could be falls of 2 m or less.

As I say, fall - not jump - from a 10 m and come back and report... I'll lend you my roof if you want.

But back to the stats, I see your German report and raise the UK with link: http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/cau...-and-falls.pdf
http://www.hse.gov.uk/food/falls.htm

As with the German report you quoted, absolute numbers were not high, but reading through the second link, they include falls down stairs as well as off the back of a truck... nowhere near 10m high. Nevertheless "falls from height were the most common cause of fatalities, accounting for nearly three in ten (29%) fatal injuries to workers (RIDDOR)".

If I find a definition of "height" will post.

Eitherway, the accident rate is still a lot lower in both Germany and the UK (so called developed countries, I admit a that definition is a stretch for the UK). So, remind me, was the point that using "best practice building" this should or should not be happening, and that Qatar's safety standards are or are not top notch, and that this is or isn't *somewhat* embarrasing for FIFA?

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Old 08.06.2015, 14:24
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3 m (10 ft) if not lethal will likely lead to a prolonged hospital visit...
Two of my kids have required multiple hospital visits (one for a few days) after falling less than two metres - and on to playground 'soft flooring' rather than the concrete with sharp bits of rebar sticking out the top, as you would find on a typical building site.

Perhaps Urs Max thinks that Qatar building sites are surrounded by kids' trampolines and the falling workers just bounce back up and end up at the place from where they fell so they can carry on working?

Perhaps Urs Max ought to ponder the fact that if Amnesty International has felt the need to get involved with investigating the building trade in Qatar then something might be seriously amiss?
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Old 08.06.2015, 16:25
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So 320 deaths a year in Switzerland and 16 (in Germany) were were due to falls; say 5% if they were all Swiss or probably more like 0.5% here. What are we trying to prove again?
And your point is...what exactly?

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Meh... you say potato... you'd need to qualify the height. My house at its apex is 10m - that's 3 floors with room to spare. Terraces, attics etc. could be falls of 2 m or less.

As I say, fall - not jump - from a 10 m and come back and report... I'll lend you my roof if you want.

But back to the stats, I see your German report and raise the UK with link: http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/cau...-and-falls.pdf
http://www.hse.gov.uk/food/falls.htm

As with the German report you quoted, absolute numbers were not high, but reading through the second link, they include falls down stairs as well as off the back of a truck... nowhere near 10m high. Nevertheless "falls from height were the most common cause of fatalities, accounting for nearly three in ten (29%) fatal injuries to workers (RIDDOR)".

If I find a definition of "height" will post.
I didn't find any worker injuries statistics that group for height. The problem with industrial accidents is, environment differs. I

The german statistics, however, differentiates for types of falls, e.g. off ladders, or down stairs, or from scaffolds/roofs, etc. The number I mentioned is from tab 33, line 2, fall types included as mentioned. But you can group them together to perhaps match the UK groupings. One problem here is: different countries employ different definitions of what to count, so comparing the details may well be comparing apples to oranges. Another problem is comparing across industries, that adds just an additional layer of uncertainty.

My point is not that all is well in Qatar. My point is, that the ITUC report is intentionally overblown and grossly misleading. Eventually that may well turn out to be a disservice to their clientele.
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Old 08.06.2015, 16:53
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

Maybe this new blockbuster on the story of FIFA 'United Passions' will shed light on the goings on at Zurichberg:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015...rard-depardieu

Hilarious fact. It took $607 in its opening U.S. weekend. That's six hundred and seven dollars not even 607,000!!
The Guardian described it as "Pure cinematic excrement"!! :-)
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Old 08.06.2015, 17:12
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My point is not that all is well in Qatar. My point is, that the ITUC report is intentionally overblown and grossly misleading. Eventually that may well turn out to be a disservice to their clientele.

Is Sepp Blatter your dad or uncle something? You too seem to be in denial.

It's not about workers falling and how far they are falling - it's about slave labour in atrocious conditions.
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

Rumours that Tokyo Sexwale is to replace Chuck Blazer at FIFA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Sexwale

This may or may not be true

"Mosima Gabriel "Tokyo" Sexwale (born 5 March 1953), (Venda; English approx. /sɛˈxwɑːleɪ/),[1] is a South African businessman, politician, anti-apartheid activist, and former political prisoner. A charismatic leader, Sexwale was imprisoned on Robben Island for his anti-apartheid activities, alongside figures such as Nelson Mandela. After the 1994 general election—the first universal franchise election in South Africa—Sexwale became the Premier of Gauteng Province. Later, he served in the government of South Africa as Minister of Human Settlements from 2009 to 2013."

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Old 08.06.2015, 17:44
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There's no way I'm googling that from work




At least he could give his FIFA colleagues tips on how to survive prison.
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3 m (10 ft) if not lethal will likely lead to a prolonged hospital visit...
Thanks for the conversion! I still would not want to jump that far if I did not have to, but I probably could survive it.

10 metres on the other hand is a different story. That's 32 feet, and you were rightfully sceptical about that other guy's claims that it is not a lethal distance. Maybe you CAN survive a fall from that distance, but I'll be most won't and those who do will be severely injured.
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Can a mod please initiate a splinter thread "Can someone survive a ten metre fall?" It should be 'riveting'?

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Here is some info from ESPN on the guy in FIFA reponsible for reform Domenico Scala:
http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup...domenico-scala

So on Sunday the FIFA Head of Compliance, Domenico Scala told Sonntagszeitung that "Should evidence be present that the awarding to Qatar and Russia only came about with bought votes, then the awarding could be void."
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/08/fo.../fifa-scandal/


And 24 hours later FIFA formally announce to the contrary, "Russia and Qatar were awarded the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups by democratic vote of the Executive Committee. Based on expert opinions and available facts, FIFA has no legal grounds to take away the hosting of the FIFA World Cup from Russia and Qatar."


So it would seem that Blatter (who sent a Tweet of a photo of himself getting busy with reforms) and his Executive Committee cronies aren't on the same page or even communicating with Scala. It looks totally inept.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/d...05-ghh9ov.html


And look what Cristiano Ronaldo gave Sepp as a thank you present for beating Messi to the Ballon d'Or ;-)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...former-5826371
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Old 09.06.2015, 21:28
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So on Sunday the FIFA Head of Compliance, Domenico Scala told Sonntagszeitung that "Should evidence be present that the awarding to Qatar and Russia only came about with bought votes, then the awarding could be void."
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/08/fo.../fifa-scandal/


And 24 hours later FIFA formally announce to the contrary, "Russia and Qatar were awarded the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups by democratic vote of the Executive Committee. Based on expert opinions and available facts, FIFA has no legal grounds to take away the hosting of the FIFA World Cup from Russia and Qatar."


So it would seem that Blatter (who sent a Tweet of a photo of himself getting busy with reforms) and his Executive Committee cronies aren't on the same page or even communicating with Scala. It looks totally inept.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/d...05-ghh9ov.html


And look what Cristiano Ronaldo gave Sepp as a thank you present for beating Messi to the Ballon d'Or ;-)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...former-5826371
LOL, quote from one link "The controversial soccer boss was described by one paper last week as a a “short, bald despot with a leering eye for women half his age”.
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Somebody spotted a suspicious brown paper bag - the assumption being that if it is at FIFA then it is a bomb.

What else could it be??
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Sepp Blatter
> has announced his resigation but without date
> has accepted the Nomination to being chairman of the FIFA MUSEUM
> has accepted his Nomination to become FIFA chairman again
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WHO is BUBBA ?
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