Glowing write-up of the city in today's Guardian.
Makes me feel I should get out more.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/201...nightlife-bars

Great article. That’s exactly what I love about Zurich – its vibrant, energizing quality and the fact that it is so full of life. It is a far cry from what I’d expected before coming here. I thought it would be a grim place. How little did I know…

You came here in the POST Raphael Huber Period

I only have a vague notion of who he is. I’ll have to educate myself.
What makes the city so vibrant for me is the all-pervasive hedonistic streak, which the article describes so well.

This article is utter nonsense. Zurich is one of the most boring cities in Europe and rightfully so. The most vibrant thing is the airport on a Sunday as everything else is closed...just because a few yuppies end uup at some lido (because there is not really anything else to do) doesn`t mean that the place is all the sudden happening.

He was the most corrupt official Zürich City ever had. But he had the correct notion that some new ideas had to be given free space. He got the place to give licences to cafés and restaurants to expand out and into open places in front of them. But whomever wanted to get the permission to do so had to make a small payment to a bank account in the Toscana. It was half a door open. But when it al became public, the "ancièn régime" broke down and the whole structure of strict "Wirte-Patent" was abolished.

The man is lucky and unlike other similar people before him was not beheaded and is now living happily in the Toscana ..... but will possibly nevertheless get a fountain or a memorial named after him, possibly on encouragement of "Tourismus Zürich", and explained correctly by "elder statesman" Elmar Eldergerber

are you a NON-swimmer or what ??

places like shopping at train-stations, like cafés and restaurants etc are open, so that it is hard to see your problem

Blimey a positive article in the British press about Switzerland - at least I think it was positive.

Never really though of translating Badi as 'lido' though...

The only nonsense is your post pal. Please remember you're from Olten. That's the place suicidal folk avoid as it's just too f'kin depressing. Someone from Olten calling Zurich boring? WTF? That's like Elton John telling David Beckham "you're too gay".

..and what does me hailing from Olten have anything to do with me calling Zurich boring? You must belong to the stuck up lido crowd that heads to a public bath in the evening pretending to be on the French riviera or Miami beach.
..here some interesting literature:
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...317_309146.htm

I love the fact that Zurich is a very long way away

I used to enjoy the lidos, though. I'll give them that.

C'mon, you come from Olten, it wouldn't surprise me if you've got gills and you recently crawled out of some bog. How can someone from there call anywhere else boring and even dare pretend to be credible, that's just a creepy contradiction that deserves a bashing.
As for me, i've traveled around and yeah, i've been to both the french riviera and miami many times. Nothing like Zurich, nothing like each other. What's yer point man? Zurich is vibrant if you know where to go and it's chilled if you want to take easy. Also not got the propensity for violence like the places in your "report". Reading a positive report about Zurich in a British journal for once is excellent. It's the closed-minded, obstinate folk like you who do indeed prefer Miami or the Cote. And no wonder, stuck in Olten, FFS.

I´m not even going to bother with your garbage. The fact tat you are calling Zurich vibrant (if you know where to go) sums it all up.

True, my point seems contradictory. (BTW, quick question, you ever watched the "Creature From the Black Lagoon" ?)
Anyway back on topic, i'd say the good places in Zurich are more accessible than in London or Paris or similar, wouldn't you? It's a trek going anywhere in those places, even if you know where to go. But that's normal; they're much larger, but also have more choice. Zurich can be a maze sometimes, however with the help of maps.google.com you're within walking distance of many top places - you just need to know where to go. Amsterdam is more comparable to Zurich and that place has a real vibe to it, smashing Zurich IMO, but that's got nothing to do with the report in the OP's post and shouldn't detract from the fact that Zurich is a top place with a good vibe. Just like amphibians are drawn to Olten, folk searching for a good time come to Zurich. BTW, the Clubs/per-capita ratio in Zurich is one of the highest in Europe. Google that one, boss.

Dlavrag, just let him goto bed now. Olten is the reason why there are so many big pharma companies in Switzerland. I appreciate many of LiB's posts, mainly because of their poignant sarcasm, but he's not exactly the guy I'd ask to cheer me up if need be. So, whenever the topic is fun or joy, just ignore him.

Well, if there were any good places in Zurich, then it would be obvious, that they would be more accessible as ya know, London for instance, has almost twice as many people as Switzerland...however, this being said...I`ve
honestly had and still have a hard time finding any worthwhile venue in Zurich; the place is dead...as a matter of fact, deader than dead...certainly, if you`re into the "going for a few metrosexual drinks in a crammed up bar" crowd..then Zurich wil cater to your needs..however, if you (like me) have lived aound the world and are used a certain standard and availability of goods and services..then Zurich just won`t cut it and find it an overhyped/overpriced city.


ps: By the way, it`s creature from the black lagoon not blue lagoon.


Awww, you had me at hello...

The comparisons done in that article are simply rubbish. While London, Paris and Rome still are in what I would call the Top League of European cities, cities like Amsterdam, Brussels, Strassburg, München, Zürich, Geneva, Budapest and Prague play in a LOWER league very clearly. Milano is on its way up and may get into the top league at some time. Berlin clearly is aspiring to RETURN into the top league. A city which would have the potential for a return into the top league (after a century) is Wien/Vienna but it lacks the dynamics to do so. Not mentioned is a 24hours per day city which is truly tremendous in spite of its weaknesses, ATHENS. Neither is Istanbul, the beautiful metropolis on the Bosporus.

I just love his grim sarcasm: it’s a good antidote for my my over-enthusiasm.

I'm sorry, but it seems a bit silly to me to be arguing over something so subjective as to whether or not a city is boring...

But I do *personally* think that the fact that Lost Inbroad DOES live in Kloten makes his argument all the more 'valid' on his side, because one would think that, coming from an area like Kloten, that he would find Zurich to be lively and exciting (which he does not).

Besides, didn't the Swiss government recently pose the question: "Is Switzerland too boring?" I think that right there is a sign in and of itself...

But again, that's just my personal opinion.

Kloten = Olten. I tend to agree.