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Old 07.12.2011, 16:03
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USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

http://www.20min.ch/news/schweiz/story/28100376

My personal opinion: let them kick us out of the visa-waiver program. This is really going to far.

It's just a pity that due to the Schengen-accords, we won't be able to make US citizens get visa as well.
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:07
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

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My personal opinion: let them kick us out of the visa-waiver program. This is really going to far.

It's just a pity that due to the Schengen-accords, we won't be able to make US citizens get visa as well.
Agree, it's easy to get a tourist visa, not sure about business - so it should not be a reason to give in... but as usual there will be more threats/issues attached to this one I guess..
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:09
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

- Biometric passport
- ESTA Tourist authorization
- Fingerprints
- Eye prints

I'd rather go through a full body scan than get a tourist visa.
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:15
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

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- Biometric passport
- ESTA Tourist authorization
- Fingerprints
- Eye prints

I'd rather go through a full body scan than get a tourist visa.
Well probably, I got mine before all that malarkey started...

But you need 3 of the above anyway, with or without Visa, no?
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:15
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It's just a pity that due to the Schengen-accords, we won't be able to make US citizens get visa as well.
oh yes it will. If they follow up on their threats that would be oil in the fire for the SVP and we might see a fresh anti-Schengen campaign.
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:24
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

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- Biometric passport
- ESTA Tourist authorization
- Fingerprints
- Eye prints

I'd rather go through a full body scan than get a tourist visa.
except for the eye prints, you have to get everything already now. Oh, and you forgot the 20$ entry fee to the zoo.
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:31
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Oh, and you forgot the 20$ entry fee to the zoo.
yes, but that gives you the right to feed the Americans
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:36
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

Every day I see something that makes me wonder what happened to the country of my birth.

Land of the free enslaved, home of the brave paranoid
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:47
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

The US has so many issues to solve internally - I don't quite understand the need to bully other countries at this time. And it seems like bullying (I say as US citizen).
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Old 07.12.2011, 16:57
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

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- Biometric passport
- ESTA Tourist authorization
- Fingerprints
- Eye prints

I'd rather go through a full body scan than get a tourist visa.
My wife tried to get a U.S. tourist visa once and they said it would take a few months as she had a new, but the wrong sort of Swiss passport.

I guess they don't want tourists, much.
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Old 07.12.2011, 19:33
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

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My personal opinion: let them kick us out of the visa-waiver program. This is really going to far.

It's just a pity that due to the Schengen-accords, we won't be able to make US citizens get visa as well.
wow, google translate does a terrible job with that article...

anyway, I don't see why the US is so concerned with dangerous Swiss visitors. Pity that this kind of stuff blows back on us US-expats living and working here
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Old 07.12.2011, 19:56
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

Let's not forget that they bully their own citizens (I am one), with the taxation without representation thing... many of us no longer have US addresses, so there are no Congressional reps that give a hoot about our issues.

The politicians think that we must ALL be rich and squirreling away tax free assets. I REALLY cannot stand the tax policies for Americans living abroad, but there is no way that the laws will be changed because why would anyone in a position to make a change do anything when it does not benefit them...


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The US has so many issues to solve internally - I don't quite understand the need to bully other countries at this time. And it seems like bullying (I say as US citizen).
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Old 07.12.2011, 20:06
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

Ha, this coming from a country with a significant drug and crime problem itself. Quite frankly it beggars belief.

I know quite a number of expat USA citizens and they're good people, very good people. I'm truly sorry their country is becoming an embarrasment for them.
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

Impressive is the number of reactions & comments on the 20minuten article (more than 500 at 8.15pm). I think also it's time about giving the signal that enough is enough. If Switzerland imposes visa on US citizen it will mean no access anymore to Schengen space anymore.
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Old 07.12.2011, 20:29
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

i saw this and was, again, as has happened so many times since the bush administration and appears now to be carried on by obama who has other priorities, SO PROUD TO BE AMERICAN.

U!S!A! U!S!A! U!S!A!

nothing promotes our standing in the eyes of the world like punitive measures against the one country in europe which still seems to like us.
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Old 07.12.2011, 20:47
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

I'm over here working on rotation at the minute
  • harassed going through immigration as I'm working for a European company in the place
  • no option to escape or reclaim paying US sales taxes as per the rest of the world
  • ridiculously one sided regulation of US listed companies
USed to be a great place , now gone to the dogs... can't wait to get home.
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Old 07.12.2011, 20:50
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Re: USA threatens Switzerland: give us your criminal records, or no more visa-waiver

you all complaining? try being sent to secondary EVERY single time for being the only mexican in the flight….
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you all complaining? try being sent to secondary EVERY single time for being the only mexican in the flight….
you can't beat middle.eastern born male aged 15-60 sharing the flight.
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Old 07.12.2011, 21:19
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you can't beat middle.eastern born male aged 15-60 sharing the flight.
Long beard and turban helps your chances as well!!
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you all complaining? try being sent to secondary EVERY single time for being the only mexican in the flight….
I got secondary searched when leaving the US
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