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Tilia · #41 22.12.2011, 13:08

Barca are making politics when they are being used to manifest the views of the Catalan separatist groups and when they take every opportunity to display this.

It's remarkable really that it's gone on for as long as it has.

	Quote:	FCBarca
	In the community of politics, arts, science, literature, intellectuals, activists etc., the voice of support of Palestinians is routinely silenced...and more often than not, the messengers are admonished for brazenly being 'anti-semetic'...It's the art of perpetuating the apartheid...You can pretty much be critical of anyone or any country but if Israel comes up, it's met with the usual spin & propaganda machine It's remarkable really that it's gone on for as long as it has

FCBarca · #42 22.12.2011, 15:00

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	Which apartheid?

The one Mandela spoke of in Israel/Palestine...There's plenty of information out there regarding it, even within Israel

Nelson Mandela:

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	Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property. It has perpetuated a system of gross racial discrimination and inequality. It has systematically incarcerated and tortured thousands of Palestinians contrary to the rules of international law and waged war against a civilian population, in particular children

Desmond Tutu:

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	"It reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about. Many South Africans are beginning to recognize the parallels to what we went through."

Nigel Kennedy:

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	"I was shocked to see these walls, it's a new apartheid, barbaric behavior: How can you impose such a collective punishment and separate people? After all, we are all living on the same planet. It seems to me the world should have already learned from what happened in South Africa. And a country that hasn't learned should be boycotted, so that's why I don't perform in your country [Israel]."

Arundhati Roy on the apartheid:

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	“Palestine still remains illegally occupied. Its people live in inhuman conditions … They never know when their homes will be demolished, when their children will be shot, when their precious trees will be cut, when their roads will be closed, when they will be allowed to walk down to the market to buy food and medicine.”

President Jimmy Carter:

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	When Israel does occupy this territory deep within the West Bank and connects the 200-or so settlements with each other, with a road, and then prohibits the Palestinians from using that road … this perpetrates even worse instances of apartness, or apartheid, than we witnessed even in South Africa.

Israeli historian, Ilan Pappé:

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	This is a very simple story, a story of dispossession, of colonisation, of occupation, of expulsion. And the more I go into it, the clearer the story becomes … it also brought me to think of the state of Israel, and the Jewish majority in it, in very much the same terms that I used to think about places such as South Africa, and the white supremacy regime there.

Holocaust survivor, Hedy Epstein:

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	I was really not prepared for all the horrors that I saw. I had heard about checkpoints. And I thought a checkpoint was something like a toll booth on a highway here in the United States. It's not like that at all. And it's gotten worse every time I return. The way they are now, they remind me of when animals are rounded up and taken to slaughter, it's just so humiliating.

Former South African Minister, Ronnie Kastrils:

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	In its conduct and methods of repression, Israel … resemble[s] more and more apartheid South Africa at its zenith — even surpassing its brutality…How do we evaluate the inhumanity of dropping bombs and blazing white phosphorous on civilian populations, burning people alive, gassing them in a Gaza ghetto under relentless siege with no place to run or hide?

FCBarca · #43 22.12.2011, 15:01

	Quote:	Tilia
	Barca are making politics when they are being used to manifest the views of the Catalan separatist groups and when they take every opportunity to display this. It's remarkable really that it's gone on for as long as it has.

Yes, I can see how this has anything to do with the OP...Merely goes to my earlier point about the propaganda machine of deflection & denial

Moreover, do your homework wrt Catalunya...Make sure to start with Franco

FrankS · #44 22.12.2011, 15:20

compare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

and read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...rtheid_analogy

especially

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...rtheid_analogy

and the article by Richard Goldstone:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/op...=2&ref=opinion

FCBarca · #45 22.12.2011, 16:16

Well, damn, wiki you...Nothing like regurgitating something that is not based on facts...And Goldstone?

That's rich, it is...This wasn't a report on Apartheid, it was a report on what happened when Israel bombed Palestinians for 3 weeks straight - bought & paid for by the US taxpayer, btw...A Jewish judge who ultimately recanted much of what was in his report - which initially blamed both sides?...The same report that was met my condemnation within Israel and a report that was incomplete due to government refusal to assist or provide requested evidence in the investigation?...Yeah, keep spinnin'

A Jewish lawyer telling the NY Times there's no Apartheid in Israel...Next thing you'll be tellin' me is that there are WMDs in Iraq...Or there's an Easter Bunny...Santa Claus?...Nothing like sending in a wolf in sheep's clothing

Tilia · #46 22.12.2011, 16:27

You obviously don't get it but that's ok. Somehow I didn't think you would ;-)

	Quote:	FCBarca
	Yes, I can see how this has anything to do with the OP...Merely goes to my earlier point about the propaganda machine of deflection & denial Moreover, do your homework wrt Catalunya...Make sure to start with Franco