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Blocher is damaging for Switzerland, dishonest and should feel the full weight of the law for what he's done. He should then make many people very happy by retiring.
Dr Jur Christoph Blocher unfortunately will never really retire, and while he of course should feel the full weight of the law, he not only himself is a licenced lawyer but has lawyers in his employment. Another aspect is that he unlike Colonel LePen did not move his daughter into command but a dimwitted no longer young men who in political terms will not survive a real DISappearance of the Ayatollah for more than 3 years. "damaging for Switzerland" ? Sure, his action against the EEA was high treason against the nation and would have thrown back Switzerland by decades, but was countered by the political genius of Jean-Pascal Delamuraz, who successfully started the Bilateral process.

What was said by experts after the last parliamentary elections now however becomes visible, and this is that the "post-Blocher-period" has begun
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Old 25.03.2012, 21:44
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Dr Jur Christoph Blocher unfortunately will never really retire, and while he of course should feel the full weight of the law, he not only himself is a licenced lawyer but has lawyers in his employment. Another aspect is that he unlike Colonel LePen did not move his daughter into command but a dimwitted no longer young men who in political terms will not survive a real DISappearance of the Ayatollah for more than 3 years. "damaging for Switzerland" ? Sure, his action against the EEA was high treason against the nation and would have thrown back Switzerland by decades, but was countered by the political genius of Jean-Pascal Delamuraz, who successfully started the Bilateral process.

What was said by experts after the last parliamentary elections now however becomes visible, and this is that the "post-Blocher-period" has begun
When your popularuty has so much declined then it must be time to leave ??
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When your popularuty has so much declined then it must be time to leave ??
But he does and will insist that those who did this analysis were wrong ! and that it all just is a conspirfacy against HIM
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Old 26.03.2012, 11:16
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But he does and will insist that those who did this analysis were wrong ! and that it all just is a conspiracy against HIM
Usually such situations are a descending spiral & people who take this approach just get more unpopular & enter into more problems.

Contrast this approach with Hildebrand who recognised he was in a no-win situation & gracefully resigned.

Mostly in England politicians who have problems also resign; their hope is that the problems can be resolved away from the glare of publicity & then they can quietly return.
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Old 26.03.2012, 16:42
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Usually such situations are a descending spiral & people who take this approach just get more unpopular & enter into more problems.

Contrast this approach with Hildebrand who recognised he was in a no-win situation & gracefully resigned.

Mostly in England politicians who have problems also resign; their hope is that the problems can be resolved away from the glare of publicity & then they can quietly return.
He is surrounded by a whole group of party-men who know that their positions are threatened once Blocher quits. Add to this the "ego" of this Super-Rich business-tycoon. He of course hopes to regain popularity later. Interesting is that according to the Sonntags-Zeitung, the SVP also lost points and dropped from 26% to 23% within two weeks
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Old 26.03.2012, 16:53
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He is surrounded by a whole group of party-men who know that their positions are threatened once Blocher quits. Add to this the "ego" of this Super-Rich business-tycoon. He of course hopes to regain popularity later. Interesting is that according to the Sonntags-Zeitung, the SVP also lost points and dropped from 26% to 23% within two weeks
About "SVP also lost points and dropped from 26% to 23%"

Of course that is another reason that politicians resign to avoid consequent negative effects on their own party.
Of course if Blocher wants to drag his party down with him then that is fine with me.
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Old 26.03.2012, 17:01
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

Blocher once said that in his position it was sometimes necessary to lie...

I suppose to be fair to Blocher this is a pretty TRUE comment...

But admitting to lieing in the past?

I don't remember anybody, cirtainly not a politician saying that, ever.

I don't like Blocher but I do respect the guy for not hiding but rather being rather out in the open about his views.
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Old 26.03.2012, 17:09
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Blocher once said that in his position it was sometimes necessary to lie...

I suppose to be fair to Blocher this is a pretty TRUE comment...

But admitting to lieing in the past?

I don't remember anybody, cirtainly not a politician saying that, ever.

I don't like Blocher but I do respect the guy for not hiding but rather being rather out in the open about his views.
About " I do respect the guy for not hiding but rather being rather out in the open"

Let us hope he stays out in the open
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

Consider this. Blocher has in my opinion pissed off a few bankers. Hilderbradt most likely achieved past success by doing a solid job but also by gaining connections, favours. Hilderbrandt may still be able to call in those favours with the aim of mounting an attack on Blocher.

Now if Blocher is allowed to get away with this one "scott free" so to speak then the bankers may be under more pressure to "fly straight" with regards to their private investments etc. I'm not sure that the bankers would like this to happen. I can see the bankers joining forces and nailing Blocher over this one. Sure Blocher is powerful and no doubt has connections etc but is he able to survive a full on frontal attack from a bunch of the most powerfull bankers in Switzerland and perhaps others around the world who also have an vested interest in having him removed?

I doubt it. If the bankers lock horns with Blocher then they will play the win/lose game. And I think the result will be Blocher (loosing) resigning from politics.

But lets face it, noone wants a war. As they say the outcome of a war can be uncirtain. If the bankers have a lot to loose then it's war. If not then they will most likely not lock horns.
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Old 26.03.2012, 18:29
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

Christoph Blocher, after the police searches at his home and office, has with Mörgeli the SVP party strategist, opened fire on Sunday on the investigating authorities. In a letter he presented an accusation of the violation of official secrecy and libel, to the investigating prosecutor of the canton of Zurich, Martin Bürgisser.

Martin Bürgisser (Public prosecutor) was overheard at his club saying that he was out to get Blocher, and dissmisses Blocher's attempt at parliamentary immunity.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/story/16985498

http://www.20min.ch/diashow/diashow.tmpl?showid=43320

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Old 29.03.2012, 16:22
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Christoph Blocher, after the police searches at his home and office, has with Mörgeli the SVP party strategist, opened fire on Sunday on the investigating authorities. In a letter he presented an accusation of the violation of official secrecy and libel, to the investigating prosecutor of the canton of Zurich, Martin Bürgisser.

Martin Bürgisser (Public prosecutor) was overheard at his club saying that he was out to get Blocher, and dissmisses Blocher's attempt at parliamentary immunity.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/story/16985498

http://www.20min.ch/diashow/diashow.tmpl?showid=43320

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Strangely the guy who heard Martin Bürgisser is also involved in a related bank secrecy case as a possible defendant.

The Parliamentary commission did not automatically grant Blocher immunity this week so this immunity topic will run & run; at least for 6 months.
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

I must say that the theatrics at the top are getting more and more childish. If politicians want to dig their own graves by making disproportionate verbal and legal attacks on each other, then I'm not going to stop them. What I worry about is the role model they represent. As a teacher I tell my pupils not to declare their neghbours their enemies when they disagree on a few points and not to publish disparaging remarks in the media (Facebook etc) in order to crush them. The people at the top however do just that.
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

There is so much Schadenfreude going on that Blocher has dug his own grave.

I'm actually enjoying this political entertainment.
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Old 03.04.2012, 14:19
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

Seems Blocher is not invited as an honoured guest to the Zürich Sechseläuten procession this year for the first time for many years. This is a procession of Zünfte Zürich - I suppose the nearest translation is Zurich Guilds.
Seems the individual Guilds can comment on who to invite so we assume there were not enough votes for him.

This is not anti-SVP as there were more SVP invited than ever; including the lovely miss Rickli.

Seems Blocher say he will attend anyway; I assume he will find a Guild that will allow him to march with them - probably not a banker Guild?

Anyway there is no banker guild... Full list of guilds here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCnfte_of_Zurich

Might be interesting to have a competition about which Guild will march with him?
I would put my money on Gesellschaft zur ConstaffelOriginally members of the nobility. From December 6, 1490 ("Constaffelbrief") until 1798, all adult Zurich citizens (including women), not belonging to another guild.

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Seems Blocher is not invited as an honoured guest to the Zürich Sechseläuten procession this year for the first time for many years. This is a procession of Zünfte Zürich - I suppose the nearest translation is Zurich Guilds.
Seems the individual Guilds can comment on who to invite so we assume there were not enough votes for him.

This is not anti-SVP as there were more SVP invited than ever; including the lovely miss Rickli.

Seems Blocher say he will attend anyway; I assume he will find a Guild that will allow him to march with them - probably not a banker Guild?

Anyway there is no banker guild... Full list of guilds here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCnfte_of_Zurich

Might be interesting to have a competition about which Guild will march with him?
I would put my money on Gesellschaft zur ConstaffelOriginally members of the nobility. From December 6, 1490 ("Constaffelbrief") until 1798, all adult Zurich citizens (including women), not belonging to another guild.
Seems Blocher marched with the Guild of Wiedikon; why not!
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So the decision is that before Dec 5th he did not have immunity but after Dec 5th he does
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Re: Criminal investigation launched against Christoph Blocher

Looks possible that Blocher will have his day in court on criminal charges.

If he is found guilty I hope he sets a good example & leaves the country like the foreigners he wants to deport for commiting crimes.
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Hahaha
The wolves are circling the old bundesrat :-) :-)
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Hahaha
The wolves are circling the old bundesrat :-) :-)
Well, according to him, this was a "political action/decision"

But he was pulling a short nasty today regarding tougher asylum laws.. still have to read up on that...
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Well, according to him, this was a "political action/decision"

But he was pulling a short nasty today regarding tougher asylum laws.. still have to read up on that...
sorry I did not understand that B is the only one permitted to make political decisions!!!
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