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05.12.2007, 10:03
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| | | Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon! | Quote: | |  | | | I often wonder how this whole upload grey area works with Torrents. As soon as you start downloading a torrent, you start sharing the bits of the torrent you have, does this count as uploading? Or is it only if you seed the file? | | | | | As far as I understand it and as far as the above mentioned document is concerned, yes, as soon as you start downloading the file it shares it and this is considered uploading. They recommend that you disable this feature in the app you are using to download with. Seeding the file is uploading and a no-no....
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05.12.2007, 10:04
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but if everyone would stop uploading there would be nothing left to download, no? | Quote: |  | | | • Move the pieces downloaded immediately after download to a folder on your hard disk. Often, however, the upload begins during the downloads. So you move in a legal gray zone. | | | | | and i always feel guilty moving the files straightaway as i feel like if they shared i should share with others...but i guess i should stop doing this?
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05.12.2007, 10:07
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There is some software called "Peer Guardian" that blocks IP addresses known to be from the gov'mint etc.
My mate mentioned something about it.
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05.12.2007, 14:26
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Use Tor and Privoxy for basic web coms and run P2P torrents over the I2P network. Using Firefox you can click Tor on and off to use Hushmail and the like.
Amazing to think that handing out the above information will soon be illegal.
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05.12.2007, 14:31
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| | | Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon! http://www.cucirca.com/2007/05/06/wa...-break-online/
Cough | Quote: | |  | | | Does this mean I have to tell the missus to stop 'E-mule'-ing soon ? Where is she is going to get her latest episodes of Prison Break so that she can watch them while I watch the football on the weekend ? This is a disaster !! | | | | | | | This user would like to thank hugh_abu for this useful post: | | 
05.12.2007, 15:07
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To follow on from hugh_abu's post, surely the following site is also illegal: http://www12.alluc.org/alluc/ | 
05.12.2007, 15:25
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Does this explain why I can no longer get Limewire to work on Cablecom?
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05.12.2007, 16:55
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May not be as Draconian as people say, or they're just playing it down... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12...ay_it_aint_so/ | 
05.12.2007, 19:13
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22.05.2008, 16:53
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Seems like not much is changing.
Downloading for personal use remains legal - uploading remains a no no.
Bypassing copy protection will become illegal though.
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25.05.2008, 17:04
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My mate was wondering if there was a Referendum Request on this.
My mate was also wondering if you had any mates who P2Pee on a mac, and which software is the fastest for this?
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28.05.2008, 11:23
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Hi PHOS,
the best software to p2p use with mac will be AZUREUS
follow the link http://azureus.en.softonic.com/mac
and someone have any news about what's going on with the legal/ilegal
download p2p at Switzerland ?
thanks
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28.05.2008, 11:27
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Well, I glanced over this today, New proposals for international copywright laws in Switzerland (and other places).
Last edited by cyrus; 28.05.2008 at 11:33.
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28.05.2008, 11:41
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hi again to every one,
The think is that :
I'm using full time Azureus and I'm downloading any stuff from the net,movies,music,etc....
What will be my legal situation at the moment in Switzerland,could someone
say something to me,I'm right now doing a criminal offense,an I have a problem with the police.......just for using a p2p program ??..Will someone Knoc-Knoc at my door ???
Thank a lot
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28.05.2008, 15:31
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| | | Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon! | Quote: | |  | | | hi again to every one,
...I'm right now doing a criminal offense,an I have a problem with the police.......just for using a p2p program ??..Will someone Knoc-Knoc at my door ???
Thank a lot | | | | | Didn't you mean whether "your mate" is doing any criminal offense ... and surely your mate may find police knocking his door ? Eh?
"My mate" also wants to know the same ... he can't be too careful in Switzerland...
BTW, "my mate" also confided that utorrent is the best in windows, could "your mate" try running it like this? | | This user would like to thank BenderRules for this useful post: | | 
28.05.2008, 15:56
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| | | Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon! | Quote: | |  | | | BTW, "my mate" also confided that utorrent is the best in windows, could "your mate" try running it like this? | | | | | Unfortunate for him, my mate runs a Mac. He is considering getting a linux box just for this purpose. Wait a minute, wouldn't a unix client work on my mate's mac?
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28.10.2010, 13:57
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Does anyone still use limewire? Last time I looked was a fair few years ago and even then it was full of junk. I thought everyone had moved on since then.
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28.10.2010, 14:08
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i still use it - always have good luck finding recent episodes and movies. so does this mean that even if i see a file that i want (just ran a search and stuff was still showing up) i should avoid downloading it?
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28.10.2010, 14:16
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| | | Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon! | Quote: | |  | | | I often wonder how this whole upload grey area works with Torrents. As soon as you start downloading a torrent, you start sharing the bits of the torrent you have, does this count as uploading? Or is it only if you seed the file? | | | | | According to the lawyer who's sitting next to me: yes, that's uploading. Uploading a part of a copyrighted file is treated the same as uploading all of it.
Peter
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