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Old 21.11.2013, 18:21
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

I wonder if it has anything to do with her husband- Erwin Bach, he is reportedly worth over $50 million and they have homes in many countries not just Switzerland.
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Old 21.11.2013, 18:34
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Well you can keep on wondering until the cows come home....cos you'll never know.
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Old 21.11.2013, 19:10
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Well you can keep on wondering until the cows come home....cos you'll never know.
Well, that's actually right now in Switzerland, they have to come home to get milked. And Noo, I am not saying that Tina will get milked when she comes home, who would ever think that?
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Old 05.08.2014, 19:53
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Should it be posted in "Succes of the Day" thread - nice add from Tina Turner.

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Old 05.08.2014, 20:47
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Yep, I guess I can see the similarities.




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A Kirchhaus Schnapps haus
A Schulhaus outhouse
On highway 2/2b
The people keep the city clean

They call it
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Twenty-five was the speed limit
Motorcycle not allowed in it
You go to the store on fridays
You go to church on sunday

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You go to the fields on weekdays
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Old 06.08.2014, 21:50
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Hoppy just out of interest, what is your issue with Tina Turner giving up her American passport?
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Old 06.08.2014, 22:54
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Hoppy just out of interest, what is your issue with Tina Turner giving up her American passport?
I thought that Hoppy and Tina Turner were exact same person, no?
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I thought that Hoppy and Tina Turner were exact same person, no?

I love the music she made in the US- not too down with the ring-ding Swiss stuff. I dance like her- especially to Nutbush! I was at her first comeback tour- when we had to all bunch together to make it seems like the there was a full crowd for a promo video. I love American Soul music- I' a big Tamla and Northern Soul fan. Just seems to me that she sold out. There is so much that she could do for charities here in the US, instead she's doing Swiss ads, trying to sell herself as Echte Schweiz at heart? Does she really need the money- or Swiss acceptance?
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I love the music she made in the US- not too down with the ring-ding Swiss stuff. I dance like her- especially to Nutbush! I was at her first comeback tour- when we had to all bunch together to make it seems like the there was a full crowd for a promo video. I love American Soul music- I' a big Tamla and Northern Soul fan. Just seems to me that she sold out. There is so much that she could do for charities here in the US, instead she's doing Swiss ads, trying to sell herself as Echte Schweiz at heart? Does she really need the money- or Swiss acceptance?
Maybe, I dunno, likes Switzerland.
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Old 07.08.2014, 00:10
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Maybe, I dunno, likes Switzerland.
You never know, some are Truly Attached to eXtraordinary FREE lifestyle
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Old 07.08.2014, 00:39
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I love the music she made in the US- not too down with the ring-ding Swiss stuff. I dance like her- especially to Nutbush! I was at her first comeback tour- when we had to all bunch together to make it seems like the there was a full crowd for a promo video. I love American Soul music- I' a big Tamla and Northern Soul fan. Just seems to me that she sold out. There is so much that she could do for charities here in the US, instead she's doing Swiss ads, trying to sell herself as Echte Schweiz at heart? Does she really need the money- or Swiss acceptance?
I guess like many Americans she resents completing complex forms to pay US taxes on money earned outside America?
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Old 07.08.2014, 07:36
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I guess like many Americans she resents completing complex forms to pay US taxes on money earned outside America?

I am sure that she has the money to pay a good accountant. It didn't see to be a problem until she married her toy boy, so perhaps Hubby refused to pay. The sacrifices women make for men!
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Old 07.08.2014, 09:31
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I love the music she made in the US- not too down with the ring-ding Swiss stuff. I dance like her- especially to Nutbush! I was at her first comeback tour- when we had to all bunch together to make it seems like the there was a full crowd for a promo video. I love American Soul music- I' a big Tamla and Northern Soul fan. Just seems to me that she sold out. There is so much that she could do for charities here in the US, instead she's doing Swiss ads, trying to sell herself as Echte Schweiz at heart? Does she really need the money- or Swiss acceptance?
Why should she? Do you expect other Americans abroad (rich or otherwise) to be contributing to US charities? Her life is now in Switzerand, not the US, so why shouldn't she do ads here?

How can she have sold out? She's been working and paying US taxes since 1958, so some 55 years, before she finally renounced. And she would have paid a considerable sum in the Exit Tax too I expect. If the US government prefers to put that money into an ever increasing military budget instead of improving the lives of its citizens, is that her fault?

The sooner the US ditches citizen based taxation the better.
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Honestly, Hoppy I don't think she's obligated to the US in any way. Good for her ... She's worked hard, found success and she's been in a stable relationship for years. I like living here too and I will probably ditch my US citizenship as soon as I can.

The commercial is pretty silly, but so what. I think it must be aimed at expats/the newly Swissed though because it's in English. Are there German versions about?
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Old 07.08.2014, 10:59
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I am sure that she has the money to pay a good accountant. It didn't see to be a problem until she married her toy boy, so perhaps Hubby refused to pay. The sacrifices women make for men!
Do I sense a touch of envy?
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Unless we forget that not all Americans abroad are doing well, you might wish to see this analysis of Americans in Brussels, which appeared on a Canadian website last week:

"380 (12.3%) of the 3,083 Americans registered live in five of the poorest areas of Brussels: Molenbeek, Anderlecht, St Gilles, St Josse and Schaerbeek.

As a proxy for poverty, I used the municipalities with the highest unemployment rates, as reported in April 2013:
Saint-Josse-ten-Noode 29,6%
Molenbeek 28,1%
Saint-Gilles 24,2%
Schaerbeek 24,2%
Anderlecht 23,8%

http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/pu...ar_commune.jsp

http://trends.levif.be/economie/belg...0284955092.htm

A Wiki page on Molenbeek gives some insight into this rather miserable Brussels municipality:
“Attempts at revitalizing the municipality (Molenbeek) have, however, not been successful. The multinational company BBDO in June, 2011 citing over 150 attacks on their staff by locals, posted an open letter to the mayor, Philippe Moureaux announcing their withdrawal from the town.”

The point of this exercise is to suggest that some Americans abroad live in poverty. Using the term “expats”, as Mark Mazur (Asst Treasury Secretary) did in his letter to The Economist, does not fit the reality of the existence of some Americans abroad."
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Old 07.08.2014, 13:58
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Unless we forget that not all Americans abroad are doing well, you might wish to see this analysis of Americans in Brussels, which appeared on a Canadian website last week:

"380 (12.3%) of the 3,083 Americans registered live in five of the poorest areas of Brussels: Molenbeek, Anderlecht, St Gilles, St Josse and Schaerbeek.

As a proxy for poverty, I used the municipalities with the highest unemployment rates, as reported in April 2013:
Saint-Josse-ten-Noode 29,6%
Molenbeek 28,1%
Saint-Gilles 24,2%
Schaerbeek 24,2%
Anderlecht 23,8%

http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/pu...ar_commune.jsp

http://trends.levif.be/economie/belg...0284955092.htm

A Wiki page on Molenbeek gives some insight into this rather miserable Brussels municipality:
“Attempts at revitalizing the municipality (Molenbeek) have, however, not been successful. The multinational company BBDO in June, 2011 citing over 150 attacks on their staff by locals, posted an open letter to the mayor, Philippe Moureaux announcing their withdrawal from the town.”

The point of this exercise is to suggest that some Americans abroad live in poverty. Using the term “expats”, as Mark Mazur (Asst Treasury Secretary) did in his letter to The Economist, does not fit the reality of the existence of some Americans abroad."
Maybe not everybody wants to live in the Wolleraus of this world.

Some of these so-called imporished communities are actually good places to live. Rents are low and if you can get on with the community, you can have a good time there, especially if you like international food and culture. Not everybody who lives in a poor community is themselves poor. In fact there is a lot of gentrification going on in Brussels precisely because of better off people discovering the positive sides of some of the poorer neighbourhoods.
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Maybe not everybody wants to live in the Wolleraus of this world.

Some of these so-called imporished communities are actually good places to live. Rents are low and if you can get on with the community, you can have a good time there, especially if you like international food and culture. Not everybody who lives in a poor community is themselves poor. In fact there is a lot of gentrification going on in Brussels precisely because of better off people discovering the positive sides of some of the poorer neighbourhoods.
But who is to say because you live in Wollerau you aren't living in poverty? I know 7 men that live there, that basically making enough to scratch by. Just because one person, lives one place, does not define their financial situation.
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Re: Tina Turner to become Swiss

Obviously citizenship is more than taxation, there are strong emotional ties to it. As things stand now for me, I would never, ever consider giving up my Italian citizenship once I acquire my U.S. one, at some point in the future.

But consider this scenario: suppose I become a U.S. citizen, I live here in the U.S. for 30 years, I never live again in Italy, I have no more ties to the country - no family, no financial obligations, etc. I have no children who might benefit from getting an EU passport. Still, I hang on to the IT citizenship because "why not?" At some point, Italy decides to overhaul its tax system and turns it into the idiotic, U.S-style, worldwide income, nationality (not residency) based taxation. At that point, just for the fact that I am Italian my financial/compliance life has just become obscenely complicated. In that case, I would give it up.

It's just speculations, but if TT went through a similar thought process, I understand her 100%.
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