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Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Not much detail yet, but watch this space: http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentrals...firma-17567129 (in German, but with pictures)
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Old 27.02.2013, 11:57
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

What a tragic and sad day for all involved.
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What a tragic and sad day for all involved.
5 dead maybe..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21601323
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Old 27.02.2013, 12:43
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Wow, how tragic indeed!
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

very sad indeed!
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Three dead, seven injured.
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

How awful. Very sad.
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Old 27.02.2013, 14:01
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Mind boggling
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Old 27.02.2013, 14:15
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Not surprisingly, the shooter appears to have been an employee of the firm.
Very tragic


Interestingly, not a mention in the foreign press as yet. I wonder if the same would apply if the shooting had occured in the US?

Edit: except for the BBC link above (Paddy, you idiot...)

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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21601323
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Headline in the Belgian press...
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/02/27/world/europe/ap-eu-switzerland-shooting.html?ref=global-home


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Interestingly, not a mention in the foreign press as yet. I wonder if the same would apply if the shooting had occured in the US?
Well thanks GWB and his buddies the hatred toward Americans(*) has persisted even though the current POTUS's popularity is at an all-time high both inside and outside the U.S.

Personally I never use my American passport except for trips to United States because it really sucks to be an American in the 21st century.

(*) especially if you are a Republican
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Old 27.02.2013, 15:04
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

There are always going to be nutcases in society. Mental health issues affect a lot of people and you're never going to be sure if / when you can expect them to retain full clarity. Even seemingly sane people can have bad days.

Now put a loaded gun in their hands and you have a potential killer.

Ditto all the previous, present and future arguments about firearms. Guns shouldn't have a place in an organized society.
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Old 27.02.2013, 15:06
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

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it really sucks to be an American in the 21st century.
It really sucks to be a colleague, a spouse or a child of one of the dead workers in Menznau right now.
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

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There are always going to be nutcases in society. Mental health issues affect a lot of people and you're never going to be sure if / when you can expect them to retain full clarity. Even seemingly sane people can have bad days.

Now put a loaded gun in their hands and you have a potential killer.

Ditto all the previous, present and future arguments about firearms. Guns shouldn't have a place in an organized society.
I was about to say the same but with much less eloquence.
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

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Not surprisingly, the shooter appears to have been an employee of the firm.
Very tragic


Interestingly, not a mention in the foreign press as yet. I wonder if the same would apply if the shooting had occured in the US?

Edit: except for the BBC link above (Paddy, you idiot...)
On 4 station over here

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/world/europe/deadly-shooting-in-swiss-factory.htmlhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/world/europe/deadly-shooting-in-swiss-factory.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/wo...s-factory.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/wo...s-factory.html
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/02/27/world/europe/ap-eu-switzerland-shooting.html?ref=global-home




Well thanks GWB and his buddies the hatred toward Americans(*) has persisted even though the current POTUS's popularity is at an all-time high both inside and outside the U.S.

Personally I never use my American passport except for trips to United States because it really sucks to be an American in the 21st century.

(*) especially if you are a Republican
we didn't have enough other threads about the US that you had to post this here?



sympathies to the victims, their families and all involved. no matter how old I get and how many of these incidents I read or hear about, I will never understand them.
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Old 27.02.2013, 18:44
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

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Not surprisingly, the shooter appears to have been an employee of the firm.
Very tragic


Interestingly, not a mention in the foreign press as yet. I wonder if the same would apply if the shooting had occured in the US?

Edit: except for the BBC link above (Paddy, you idiot...)
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...RO01/301030415

In detroit alone , 1 or more murders where committed every day( average)in 2012 .Wher they all mentiond in the blick ? If it happens in switzerland it`s news ,over here daily life
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

USA discussions go here THE US Gun Control & Second Amendment Thread
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Re: Shooting incident in Menznau, Luzern

Just in case there are also some others who like me had no idea where this Menznau is, here some information



http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menznau

between Wolhusen and Willisau (Jazz Festival town) north-west-west of Luzern, in an area where people with the exception of a few Protestants of Bernese origin are thoroughly Roman-Catholic, where people if rightwing vote CVP and if Leftwing vote FDP, and where people regard everything as either rüüdig guät or rüüdig schlächt. Zürich there is regarded as door to the world, and as a place where people speak a kind of Hochdeutsch and some other disturbing languages. In short a usually very very peaceful land of peaceful farmers with peaceful cows


So that people there must be in total shock as such things are to happen in Zürich or Geneva or Basel but sure not in their place
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