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Re: Nestlè boss declares water is not a given right

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We all agree that water treatment and services have to be paid for. However, in my book you can't just go and dig deep wells and divert for commercial purpose, what has been a free ressource for centuries and on which the whole agriculture and local businesses are dependent on - leaving the locals without water for personal use, without a means to earn a living based on centuries of historical use (Goa hinterland and southern Spain just 2 of 1000s of examples) - causing ecological desertification, trees, forest and local species dying (palm oil?).
Um... correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you have to dig for it, that implies a cost, right? Hence, no "free" resource.

Further, rivers, streams, lakes, etc can have microbes living in them that can make anyone who drinks this "free" resource very sick- yet another cost.

Water is in no ways "free," sorry.
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Old 06.05.2013, 14:11
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Re: Nestlè boss declares water is not a given right

if you own the land, that a stream passes though, i would say it is fair enough for you to divert that stream and use the water for you own use/gain.
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Re: Nestlè boss declares water is not a given right

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if you own the land, that a stream passes though, i would say it is fair enough for you to divert that stream and use the water for you own use/gain.
If that stream becomes a bit bigger though - it might make sense to implement a water allocation scheme as below.

http://www.murrayriver.com.au/about-...d-consumption/
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Old 06.05.2013, 14:56
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if you own the land, that a stream passes though, i would say it is fair enough for you to divert that stream and use the water for you own use/gain.
It's not just a matter of opinion, but common law. Where conflicts of interests arise, they should be addressed through existing social and legal frameworks, particularly just compensation.

I realize many are simply saying that those who need water ought to get it. I agree with that to some extent. Everyone ought to have a way to buy it, collect it, conserve it, use it as they need to survive. But I don't think it should be stolen. Propagating a "everybody owns everything, so give it to them" sentiment denotes some irresponsibility.
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DE-salination is the way to go. Malta for example, which for years imported water from Sicily which was horrible, years ago changed to free-of-charge DEsalinated water. If these procedures get improved, millions of hectoliters of ocean-water can be transferred inland, in the Western USA, in desert areeas on the African Continent and elsewhere. The dreams of Messrs Khaddafi and Mubarak to have vast lakes deep inland will come true !
If I may chuck in my five Rappen, the de-sal water tastes slightly muddy and brackish with a hint of the chemicals used against algae, almost nobody drinks straight from the tap, those who do spend a lot of time wrapped around the loo, take my word for it! I use it for washing clothes and the shower and at most will cook spuds in it, but not noodles or (god forgive) make tea or coffee, for that you buy large bottles or them water cooler thingies that blubber like guts after a curry.
Also the osmose plants use lots of energy, read oil, to power the process, surprisingly solar has never taken off here, come to think of it.
De-sal plants like these here on Malta are at best a cute and greeny feel good idea.
On another note people use most of the hard to come by and incredibly pure drinking water to flush the loo, wash clothes, irrigate crops yadda, yadda, yadda. Perhaps we really would not waste drinking water like we do if there was a realistic price on it.
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If I may chuck in my five Rappen, the de-sal water tastes slightly muddy and brackish with a hint of the chemicals used against algae, almost nobody drinks straight from the tap, those who do spend a lot of time wrapped around the loo, take my word for it! I use it for washing clothes and the shower and at most will cook spuds in it, but not noodles or (god forgive) make tea or coffee, for that you buy large bottles or them water cooler thingies that blubber like guts after a curry.
Also the osmose plants use lots of energy, read oil, to power the process, surprisingly solar has never taken off here, come to think of it.
De-sal plants like these here on Malta are at best a cute and greeny feel good idea.
On another note people use most of the hard to come by and incredibly pure drinking water to flush the loo, wash clothes, irrigate crops yadda, yadda, yadda. Perhaps we really would not waste drinking water like we do if there was a realistic price on it.
I have installed a solar water heater, I think repayment time is about 4 years . Solar electricity has a repayment time of under 7 years, I will install one as soon as I get my residence permit as I can't claim feed in tariffs without one. I suspect my power bills will end up being zero, or more likely get a refund from ARMS every 6 months.

Nespresso tastes very good with tap water, better than in CH !
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Re: Nestlè boss declares water is not a given right

Trouble brewing for Nestlé?

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The Story of Stuff Project, a campaign group, has just announced the pursuit of legal action towards Nestlé. The lawsuit is over the extraction of groundwater in California as Nestlé has been doing, illegally, for its arrowhead brand. This is considered to be a key contributor to the drought crisis within the state.
http://www.ewao.com/a/1-is-nestl-to-...rnian-drought/
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