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Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/wrsnew...el.shtml?35616

Colgate-Palmolive-Europe now moves, after a decade from Geneva to Basel. I hope, the Therwil-base succeeds.

I might have recommended Olten (central location, boring enough to get the employees working) or Sumiswald
in the Emmental, where real-estate prices are still low and which would have provided the staff a real sense of
"deep in the heart of Switzerland".

http://www.sumiswald.ch/de/index.php
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An interesting alternative might have been Lachen/SZ right on the "upper-section" of the Lake of Zürich

http://www.lachen.ch/de/
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

I live in Therwil and am wondering whereabouts are they going to go? Therwil is quite a small little place, I can't see there would be much space for them.

Somewhere near Hüslimatt I would imagine.
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

Oh, and I am sure this will pump the price of real estate around here even higher. It's bad enough already.
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I live in Therwil and am wondering whereabouts are they going to go? Therwil is quite a small little place, I can't see there would be much space for them.

Somewhere near Hüslimatt I would imagine.
Here the present address

GABA Schweiz AG


Grabetsmattweg 1
4106 Therwil
Telefon: 061 415 66 00 Fax: 061 415 66 80 www.colgate.ch

I neither know where that place exactly is nor whether they have to get additional space

PS: I "lived" in Therwil for 3 weeks sometime in the 1970ies
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

Ah yes, close to Hüslimatt. just over a km from our house!

I wonder how many jobs they will be bringing and whether they'll need to redevelop the site.
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Old 06.05.2013, 21:42
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I live in Therwil and am wondering whereabouts are they going to go? Therwil is quite a small little place, I can't see there would be much space for them.
I guess all they need is space for a letterbox...
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Old 07.05.2013, 03:49
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I guess all they need is space for a letterbox...
No, not really, as what they move is not the legal-HQ but the Europe-administration. A letterbox in Geneva is not expensive, and Therwil is not Vaduz or Zug.

By train, you from Therwil are in Basel-SBB within about a quarter-hour. I in those weeks mentioned almost every evening used that train. My two colleagues who did not like the Baaaslers, were not interested, which was good for me

As the production of ELMEX (part of Gaba-Colgate) is outsourced to Poland, I can imagine that offices and personnel now simply can be shifted
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

I have worked for CP many years, it s a great company to wirk for.
The office in Geneva is not that big so i think they will take one of the manufactoring's buildings in therwill. I wonder how smooth this will work as the transiction will be happening just before they shut down the plant (i was told people in Lörrach is not taking that good either).
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Old 07.05.2013, 07:38
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

I'd choose Therwil over Olten since Therwil gets more sun. As a homeowner, I can only hope that real estate prices will increase not just in Therwil, but other nearby communities.
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Old 14.05.2013, 12:18
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Re: Colgate-Palmolive-Europe to Therwil-Basel

The small offices in Geneva (around 60 employees) are moving to Therwil due to the merger of Colgate-Palmolive with GABA and the second having bigger offices in Switzerland located there in Therwil, there's therefore no need to recommend Olten or any other city for the matter or to wonder where are they relocating, since it is all already set and the reason is purely administrative - they wouldn't move anywhere else other than that city.
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The small offices in Geneva (around 60 employees) are moving to Therwil due to the merger of Colgate-Palmolive with GABA and the second having bigger offices in Switzerland located there in Therwil, there's therefore no need to recommend Olten or any other city for the matter or to wonder where are they relocating, since it is all already set and the reason is purely administrative - they wouldn't move anywhere else other than that city.
Well, things are not as you write.
Colgate bought GABA 5 years ago, then they got rid of the manufactoring plants as soon as they could.
The reason they are moving to Basel is just for tax purposes (the 10 years agreement with the canton Geneva is about to expire).
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Well, things are not as you write.
Colgate bought GABA 5 years ago, then they got rid of the manufactoring plants as soon as they could.
The reason they are moving to Basel is just for tax purposes (the 10 years agreement with the canton Geneva is about to expire).
No, that just explains why didn't they do it before right after the merger.
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No, that just explains why didn't they do it before right after the merger.
they did not do it before as it was forbidden to dismiss any plants before 5 years from the merge (i think it is according to some german laws)
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No, that just explains why didn't they do it before right after the merger.
Your use of the term "merger" is irritating. It was not a merger but simply a takeover

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they did not do it before as it was forbidden to dismiss any plants before 5 years from the merge (i think it is according to some german laws)
German laws ? Gaba was a Swiss company

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA-Gruppe

and Colgate is a US company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgate-Palmolive

while Colgate Switzerland are Swiss companies

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they did not do it before as it was forbidden to dismiss any plants before 5 years from the merge (i think it is according to some german laws)
German laws ? Gaba was a Swiss company

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA-Gruppe

and Colgate is a US company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgate-Palmolive

while Colgate Switzerland are Swiss companies

Colgate-Palmolive Company GmbH in Zug, GmbH, +++, CH-170.4.011.259-6, PDF
Colgate-Palmolive Europe (Holdings) Sàrl in Genève, GmbH, +, CH-660.1.570.007-9
Colgate-Palmolive Europe Sàrl in Genève, GmbH, +++, CH-660.0.983.004-4
GABA/Colgate-Palmolive Pensionskasse in Therwil, Stiftung, +++, CH-280.7.012.320-5


Nothing about German laws

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Very important will be that the Kanton Basel-Land and of course Therwil manage to find a long-term agreement with Colgate, and not just a limited one of some years

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German laws ? Gaba was a Swiss company

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA-Gruppe

and Colgate is a US company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgate-Palmolive

while Colgate Switzerland are Swiss companies

when CP took over, one condition in the contract was the commitment to keep all the GABA assets for at least five year.

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Colgate-Palmolive Company GmbH in Zug, GmbH, +++, CH-170.4.011.259-6, PDF
Colgate-Palmolive Europe (Holdings) Sàrl in Genève, GmbH, +, CH-660.1.570.007-9
Colgate-Palmolive Europe Sàrl in Genève, GmbH, +++, CH-660.0.983.004-4
GABA/Colgate-Palmolive Pensionskasse in Therwil, Stiftung, +++, CH-280.7.012.320-5



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Very important will be that the Kanton Basel-Land and of course Therwil manage to find a long-term agreement with Colgate, and not just a limited one of some years
thank you for repeating what I just said a couple of posts ago.
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when CP took over, one condition in the contract was the commitment to keep all the GABA assets for at least five year.








thank you for repeating what I just said a couple of posts ago.
A) one condition in the contract ..................
and the contract was about companies in Switzerland, absolutely nothing to do with German laws

B) It may well be that you said it before .... either this or that way ... but I wanted to make it clear that none of them is German
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A) one condition in the contract ..................
and the contract was about companies in Switzerland, absolutely nothing to do with German laws
this is why i used the words "i think", i was told that some laws do companies to dismiss/sell assets for some years after taking over another one.

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B) It may well be that you said it before .... either this or that way
ok, then you did not read what I wrote at 2:30 pm...
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this is why i used the words "i think", i was told that some laws do companies to dismiss/sell assets for some years after taking over another one.
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Not in Switzerland. A company can sell assets of a company taken over immediately after the transaction becomes legal. THIS is the reason why the point was in the contract. A company who has just taken over another one however not only has to face laws protecting the employees for several months, but also some conflict-eager trades-unionists
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Your use of the term "merger" is irritating. It was not a merger but simply a takeover
Your face is irritating
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Your face is irritating
There's no need to be so rude. Your inner voice spilled out into the forum
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