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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

What is allowed or not allowed, legal or illegal - is fairly irrelevant to the vast majority of Maltese hunters
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Old 21.03.2015, 19:58
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

I think hunting songbirds is dumb, but apparently hunters in Malta kill 3 million birds a year. How many birds do Europe's cats kill? In
America roughly 80 million cats kill well over a billion birds annually, I imagine the numbers can't be far off in Europe.
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

The trouble in Malta is that no politician will make a stand against bird hunting as he knows that if he does, bang goes his chance of election/re-election. Its a highly political issue.
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

Same in Cyprus, and even parts of FRance, especially the South-West.
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Old 21.03.2015, 20:20
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

peregrine falcons are gorgeous. i remember the first time i saw them- a pair, of all places in central park, ny. it seems that they have been reintroduced there a while ago and the population, i believe, is growing each year and they must like the height of the tall buildings..

it's a shame that keepers of pigeons would have such little reverence for the falcons- but, unfortunately the way some people treat animals doesn't surprise me much anymore
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

Well, we do seem to have digressed.... just a bit. However, if the police, with the help of Vogelwarte and international bird networks make accusations about a certain group of people- it may not be 'racism' but based on very many years of intelligence in Europe and local knowledge of recent and previously unknown activity in the Thalwil area.
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Old 21.03.2015, 21:51
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The trouble in Malta is that no politician will make a stand against bird hunting as he knows that if he does, bang goes his chance of election/re-election. Its a highly political issue.
Not too sure about that PM Joseph Muscat (pro hunting) is in a tough spot and knows that if the referendum passes his ass will be the target of the hunting lobby and if it fails then said ass will be dragged over the coals by the anti hunting lobby, seems however that he has taken the pussy way out with the statement that it is not his place to be popular.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles...batross.551670
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

TOM validates my point. BTW, it would be nice to have another of your life-in-Malta posts, Slammer.
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TOM validates my point. BTW, it would be nice to have another of your life-in-Malta posts, Slammer.
Must admit I haven't found the muse to do a writeup since end of last year..
you do it snowed for the first time since 1962 and it is still cold, unusual for this time of year..
But gonna make a point to do a write up
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In all my years working as a wildlife volunteer in the UK, I was sadly used to peregrine falcons and other raptors being poisoned by game-keepers and pigeon fanciers, particularly in Scotland and Yorkshire. Never thought this would happen in Switzerland too- as in my region of Romandie, pigeon-fancying is non-existent.

Two Peregrine females were found recently poisoned (remains of pigeon laced with poison found nearby) in Wallisellen near Zurich- two more in a long series in recent years. What a shame

In the Canton of Zürich, the peregrines are officially and fairly effectively encouraged to settle down as they help to reduce the crazy number of pigeons we have here





so that the criminals will now be traced for by Police


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Here excerpts of the Report in 20 MIN


20. März 2015 08:00; Akt: 20.03.2015 10:18
«Doves are a preferred prey of falcons»

Whenever the falcons are indeed a problem for their domestic doves the Swiss Dove-Growers are outraged about the killing of the falcons

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The falcon is the fastest flying bird of the Country, and usually gets his Prey during flight. The falcon is protected in Switzerland by law. Special breeding programs are to help to preserve the falcons. The program is now threatened by the killers

A preferred Prey are the Serbian Highflyer Doves. Some Serbian Dove breeders in Switzerland drop poison onto the wings of doves in order to kill the falcons and often have success

Zum Thema

  • Falke filmt: Greifvogel entdeckt sein Talent als Kameramann
  • Auf Video gebannt: Die Jagd des Falken aus der Vogelperspektive

    When it on Wednesday became known that unknown killer poisoned two falcons in Wallisellen Vogelschutz Schweiz (bird protection Switzerland) has announced salaries of up to CHF 10'000.-- for useful Information. Their CEO Werner Müller says that this has to be stopped and that a harder Approach is required. The killing of the falcons is a Offizial-Delikt and an offence against various laws and is therefore automatically tackled by Police. He warns that the poison in use can be dangerous or even deadly for children and for dogs and for cats
  • In 2013, Police found entries in a Serbian dove-breeder-blog jubilating about the success of their kamikaze-doves ..........

    as the method is well known in Serbia and was brought to Switzerland. The Swiss Association of Breeders of Letter Doves tried to get into touch with the Serbians in question but in vain. The association also invited them to join but also in vain.
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Just saw THIS here


Tier Kleinanzeige 132617 (Serbische Hochflieger und Tippler Tauben zu verkaufen) wurde gelöscht


Looks as if some folks go into hiding


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Old 12.04.2015, 21:08
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

With a 2220 vote plus, the Maltese spring bird hunting will continue.
A sad day for migratory flocks wanting to rest on the Maltese archipelago.http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/

Way to go democracy.
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

A very sad day indeed- hopefully Europe will place sanctions and stop vast subsidies to the island. Hopefully tourists will also vote with their feet and their Euros- which is sad as it is a beautiful island, full of history and wonderful ancient sites- and of course, rare birds. The islanders could make a lot more money with bird, fauna and flora tourism- I do hope the voters will have to pay very highly for their tragic decision. Allowing rednecks to rule the country by intimidation is generally not a good idea

Maltese can't have their cake and eat it. The decision is totally against the European directives on bird conservation- so if that hunting protected species is so important to them, they should accept that this means an end to European support and subsidies and a massive drop in tourism revenue.

Since its accession to the EU the country has received from the European Union EUR 340 million over what it has contributed (and those figures are only to 2013) - as far as I am concerned, if they do not want to abide by rules of the EU- they can do without the above- end off.

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What is allowed or not allowed, legal or illegal - is fairly irrelevant to the vast majority of Maltese hunters

Suggesting the police and wildlife authorities have zero interest and or ability to enforce the present laws. So passing even stricter laws would be a box ticking exercise with zero effect on reality.
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Re: Pigeon fanciers and peregrine falcons- sad news

Sadly agree- and in the short term. with the kind of redneck hunters we are dealing with here- could have made it even worse. But for the long-term, you have to start from somewhere- and sometimes principles have to be voted in with the long-term in hand. Many in the police are indeed in cohoots with the hunters, and will not prosecute. Bird protection specialists and volunteers are often marched off public land and man-handled and threatened by police...

As said, Malta does get vast subsidies from the EU- and it should be made clear to them that they can't flaunt EU laws and at the same time continue to be subsidised ...

I do hope tourists will vote with their feet too- so the figures show a marked difference.

Apparently the vast majority of Maltese are against the hunters and dream of being able to walk in the beautiful countryside, but many in rural areas where intimidated not to vote and too scared to do so. The 'yes' vote was a very close call even though many 'no's didn't vote, that all sorts of reasons, intimidation being number one.

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Sadly agree- and in the short term. with the kind of redneck hunters we are dealing with here- could have made it even worse. But for the long-term, you have to start from somewhere- and sometimes principles have to be voted in with the long-term in hand. Many in the police are indeed in cohoots with the hunters, and will not prosecute. Bird protection specialists and volunteers are often marched off public land and man-handled and threatened by police...

As said, Malta does get vast subsidies from the EU- and it should be made clear to them that they can't flaunt EU laws and at the same time continue to be subsidised ...

I do hope tourists will vote with their feet too- so the figures show a marked difference.

Apparently the vast majority of Maltese are against the hunters and dream of being able to walk in the beautiful countryside, but many in rural areas where intimidated not to vote and too scared to do so. The 'yes' vote was a very close call even though many 'no's didn't vote, that all sorts of reasons, intimidation being number one.
Tigers don't normally change their stripes, but they can try and get the next generation by going into schools and making children more aware of wildlife.

In the UK, there was a time that is still in living memory that the public were not tolerated on much of the land that today forms the national parks and other walking trails and footpaths.

Sometimes landowners still try and chase ramblers off legal footpaths, but the concept is so anchored in public perception that I think there will never be a reversal.

It was the mass trespass of Kinder Scout and similar actions elsewhere that set into motion a chain of events that eventually forced landowners to open up their land.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_tr...f_Kinder_Scout

Ewan McColl's song, The Manchester Rambler, which is still popular today as a pub song, as well as being the unofficial anthem of the Ramblers Association, was originally written to commemorate this event.
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