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Old 28.10.2015, 19:29
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Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf resigned and will not stand for re-election
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/exit-of-...crecy/41745150

So the SVP will likely get their second seat and be held responsible for what they do




Also depends on the ability of the SVP to find a decent candidate who has no skeletons in the cellar


As the largest party it should be simple to find suitable candidates.
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Old 28.10.2015, 19:37
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Also depends on the ability of the SVP to find a decent candidate who has no skeletons in the cellar


As the largest party it should be simple to find suitable candidates.

I think everybody will want the SVP to have some responsibility with what takes place with the MEI deadline.

I suppose the SVP can decline all seats, and if the MEI is not implemented, demand everybody resign.
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Old 28.10.2015, 19:53
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That in addition to whatever she makes on whatever job she gets offered. Moritz Leuenberger took on a director position with Implenia for example.
They can make a max of 400kCHF otherwise the amount they get as "pension" will be reduced
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Old 28.10.2015, 20:39
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Also depends on the ability of the SVP to find a decent candidate who has no skeletons in the cellar


As the largest party it should be simple to find suitable candidates.
Oskar, Oskar!

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Re: SVP and next major elections

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i agree, he speaks french, german, english and italian, and is actually quite reasonable when necessary, and although he plays like an hardliner he accepts collegiality. he's very charismatic and could profile himself internationally much more than others. Maybe he's already too profiled on islam and such though.

he doesn't have skeletons in the cellar but a german imperial flag
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Old 29.10.2015, 15:05
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i agree, he speaks french, german, english and italian, and is actually quite reasonable when necessary, and although he plays like an hardliner he accepts collegiality. he's very charismatic and could profile himself internationally much more than others. Maybe he's already too profiled on islam and such though.

he doesn't have skeletons in the cellar but a german imperial flag
He definitely has charisma. Furthermore, as a former schoolteacher he probably has more realistic views on edication than many of the older SVP guys. I don't know whether the other parties would accept him though. He's probably too much of a hardliner to suit their tatstes. I think even within the SVP quite a lot of the more mainstream people are wary of him.
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Old 29.10.2015, 15:50
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Oskar, Oskar!

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surely you're joking, the BR is no place for clowns and neo-nazis...
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Oskar, Oskar!

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no no....not that clown! He is too close to Bloc Identitaire and Riposte Laïque who have a very extremist view even negationism.
I heard it from his former students that he was a bad teacher...not sure he will do a good job in the Federal Council.
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Or if a newspaper takes a biassed editorial position because the owner is a party member, is that advertising or just word of mouth propaganda?

It is direct democarcy that will prevent Switzerland turning into a USA style democracy, not any Strasbourg nanny state legislation.

I agree to that. In that sense I think the biggest danger for Switzerland lies in the parties that want to diminish the direct democracy. Also coming from a country where state financing for political parties was introduced I think it is a horrible idea.

1. The practical first consequence of it was that it became next to impossible for any new parties to rise. As they did not have any existing state financing and other forms of financing were made illegal.

So a big boon to the entrenched parties but a really bad thing for democracy on the whole.

2. The way it was implemented if you did not vote you because you did not like a single party you would still be forced to subsidize the existing ones, as the system just allocates the non votes more or less proportionally to the existing parties.

On the whole I think political parties are an abomination that do not have a place in a real democracy. The so called democracies of the west are particracies, not democracies at all. The saving grace of Switzerland is it's rather unique direct democracy, which in my opinion should be made much stronger at the expense of the political parties.
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Old 07.11.2015, 00:39
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Old 09.11.2015, 01:28
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Interesting that despite their success (29%) in Nationalrat elections, SVP have a much lower % of the Ständerat seats.

Anybody care to comment/explain/speculate?

Based on their lower Ständerat results the SVP should not lay claim to 2 Bundesrat seats?
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Old 09.11.2015, 11:28
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Interesting that despite their success (29%) in Nationalrat elections, SVP have a much lower % of the Ständerat seats.

Anybody care to comment/explain/speculate?

Based on their lower Ständerat results the SVP should not lay claim to 2 Bundesrat seats?
The Nationalrat are supoosed to be the represenation of the people, whereas the Ständerat are the representation of the cantons. Ständerat elections often see alliances of parties with individual personalities often playing an important role and thus party representation is not really proportional.
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Indeed, the Ständeräte elections are much more an election of persons rather than a vote for a party.

Plus, for a big portion of the 70% non-SVP voters any candidate is better than a SVP candidate. That's why some parties decide to not have a candidate in the 2nd round in order to increase the chance of another (non-SVP) candidate.
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Old 10.11.2015, 02:01
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Hansjörg Knecht has withdrawn his name from the list of SVP Bundesrat candidates; as did Tony Brunner and Heinz Tännler in recent days.

I do not know why they do this so late in the game and do not say much earlier that they are not interested.

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Old 13.11.2015, 18:28
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Re: SVP and next major elections

There are now ten SVP members who have said they are interested in standing for the ex-Widmer-Schlump Bundesrat seat; they have various levels of support within the party.

Next week the SVP will announce the names of the official candidates; I expect there are a lot of backroom negotiations underway. If they offer too many candidates then they risk splitting the votes and letting some other party slip in, at least in the first round.
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There are now ten SVP members who have said they are interested in standing for the ex-Widmer-Schlump Bundesrat seat; they have various levels of support within the party.

Next week the SVP will announce the names of the official candidates; I expect there are a lot of backroom negotiations underway. If they offer too many candidates then they risk splitting the votes and letting some other party slip in, at least in the first round.
I'm sure the other parties are also taking a look at the SVP's candidates and doing some arm twisting deals to favour the ones they find most acceptable.

Politics is all about you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Oh well no chance of a third SVP seat; they are all gone except one!

Now the voting is underway for the last seat!
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Where can one find the live updates?

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Where can one find the live updates?

Tom

www.teletext.ch
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www.tagi.ch

or watch SF1, TSR1, TSI1 ....
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Re: SVP and next major elections

Looks like Guy Parmelin is the 2nd SVP Bundesrat.
Edit: the more hardline candidates rejected as expected. Hope the SVP does not now expel this guy as well

Positions seem to be pretty much SVP mainstream.
Any members from Vaud can shed some light about this guy?

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/cabinet-...ula--/41825058
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