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Old 02.08.2015, 19:05
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Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region...

I was shocked to hear about this brutal rape in Emmen, and even more later to find out that the victim who is 26 years old, works for the same company as a good family friend who is helping the victims family.

So sad that she has been informed that due to the victim being paralysed from the force of the attack she may never return to her job, her father has had to collect her belongings and she is still not able to be interviewed by Police.

The wanted man speaks broken German. He is from 1.70 to 1.80 meters tall, slim and has a fair complexion. He was wearing a T-shirt and shorts.

Anyone who might have any information call Lucerne police: 041 248 8117

Here:http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/zen...id4028708.html
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Old 02.08.2015, 19:24
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Absolutely horrific story. My thoughts go out to her.
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Re: Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region...

Sending prayers of Healing to her now!
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Re: Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region...

So shocked to read about this!!! Particularly in a country that we feel so safe about... May the girl get the strength to overcome the trauma and may the rapist be caught and get what he deserves!!!
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So shocked to read about this!!! Particularly in a country that we feel so safe about... May the girl get the strength to overcome the trauma and may the rapist be caught and get what he deserves!!!
Terrible, nowhere is safe, this area is so nice to ride your bicycle along the path where she was but for this to happen is terrible. No peace until this monster is caught.
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Re: Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region...

"Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region..."

Is there such a thing as a non-brutal rape? Just saying.
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"Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region..."

Is there such a thing as a non-brutal rape?
If we use the most common meaning of Brutal, "Savagely violent", then yes. I'm sure it doesn't take much imagination to realise that rape can be committed without any physical violence being involved.

(Doesn't make it any more justifiable, but clearly if you're violently raped and stabbed, cut, badly beaten or subject to other violent attack it's "worse" for the victim than, say, just being a bit too drunk to be able to give or deny consent, so using "brutal" in this case does serve a purpose.)
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If we use the most common meaning of Brutal, "Savagely violent", then yes. I'm sure it doesn't take much imagination to realise that rape can be committed without any physical violence being involved.

(Doesn't make it any more justifiable, but clearly if you're violently raped and stabbed, cut, badly beaten or subject to other violent attack it's "worse" for the victim than, say, just being a bit too drunk to be able to give or deny consent, so using "brutal" in this case does serve a purpose.)
The poor girl seems to be paralysed as a result. I cannot even imagine the violence involved
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The poor girl seems to be paralysed as a result. I cannot even imagine the violence involved
Not necessarily.
The human body is actually quite fragile.
Usually, you don't realize this until you seriously hurt yourself in a silly way that you didn't believe was actually serious.
What helps (a bit) is muscle-mass and body-tension.
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Old 03.08.2015, 15:39
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Not necessarily.
The human body is actually quite fragile.
Usually, you don't realize this until you seriously hurt yourself in a silly way that you didn't believe was actually serious.
What helps (a bit) is muscle-mass and body-tension.
What are you trying to imply?
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What are you trying to imply?
that it is her own fault for not eating enough pies.
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Not necessarily.
The human body is actually quite fragile.
Usually, you don't realize this until you seriously hurt yourself in a silly way that you didn't believe was actually serious.
What helps (a bit) is muscle-mass and body-tension.
FFS. Complete straw man.

What is relevant is that a person was raped and one of the results is that she is paralyzed from her neck down.

Whether she has a "fragile" body or not, the outcome is the same. Or are you suggesting that the perp should not be blamed for this?!
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What are you trying to imply?
Because it was apparently a surprise attack, relatively little force was enough for a devastating injury.

Just for perspectives, I fell off my bike four years ago (at very low speed, but obviously at a "bad" angle), while I wasn't 100% concentrated anymore (I was very close to home, after all).
The result? A broken femoral neck bone, a week in Hotel Triemli and six weeks on crutches.

Of course, there's no one at fault but her attacker.
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FFS. Complete straw man.

What is relevant is that a person was raped and one of the results is that she is paralyzed from her neck down.

Whether she has a "fragile" body or not, the outcome is the same. Or are you suggesting that the perp should not be blamed for this?!
No, but I suggest people depart from the thinking that you need a sledgehammer and a chainsaw to bring somebody into the wheel-chair.

An unlucky fall at the wrong angle with some force and bang, you're in Nottwil.
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"Brutal rape in Emmen, Lucerne region..."

Is there such a thing as a non-brutal rape? Just saying.
Rather than groan you I'll just say that she was caught in a headlock & dragged by her head violently subsequently rupturing her spine. Much like a skiing injury to the back of the head which (as we know) can cause the person to be paralysed if with great force.

Please also bear in mind, for sensitivities sake, that related family or friends might google this and given such a good search rate/position of this site in Switzerland they might just come across this thread.

Like I said, the first thing that came in my head to write this was to inform potential victims that only a monster would do this, and that monster is still unfortunately at large.

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jesus pull yourselves together ffs. do you have to have an opinion on everything? it's embarassing.
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jesus pull yourselves together ffs. do you have to have an opinion on everything? it's embarassing.

Agree. And making jokes on a thread like this is subhuman.
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Agree. And making jokes on a thread like this is subhuman.
I don't think people on here are meaning to write in a jokey manner, it's just shock. Those (like me) who have lived here for donkeys (and in this case live in the Lucerne region) will be shocked because it is rare that this kind of thing happens thankfully.

Given that the suspect speaks broken German someone on here may know something and again, the number one priority is that we really need to catch him...

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Like I said, the first thing that came in my head to write this was to inform potential victims that only a monster would do this, and that monster is still unfortunately at large.
While the description of the attack sounds absolutely horrifying, I would abstain from describing the attacker as a "monster".
It sort of de-humanizes him, which actually makes him look less guilty.
A monster is not something of this world, a mythological figure if you want.
The rapist is very much a figure of this world.

I just feel great sadness and sorry for the victim.
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While the description of the attack sounds absolutely horrifying, I would abstain from describing the attacker as a "monster".
It sort of de-humanizes him, which actually makes him look less guilty.
A monster is not something of this world, a mythological figure if you want.
The rapist is very much a figure of this world.

I just feel great sadness and sorry for the victim.
OK. I think you are right, better to refer to him as exactly what he is, a (brutal) rapist... I would also think that the victim will not be in a position to talk to police for a long time and that is why I'm angry, I can't see them catching him...
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