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Switzerland ranked world safest country

Here's the link...

http://www.thelocal.ch/20150814/repo...safest-country

Of course the study is pretty much useless as it has the following:

" Neither did the survey factor in current political situations or conflict, throwing up some surprising results.
Syria, for example, placed at number 55, making it safer than countries including Latvia (66), Lithuania (71) and Andorra (98).
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But having said that, I already believed this was probably the safest country in the world, I just think the study is rather useless.
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Old 14.08.2015, 12:22
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Here's the link...

http://www.thelocal.ch/20150814/repo...safest-country

Of course the study is pretty much useless as it has the following:

" Neither did the survey factor in current political situations or conflict, throwing up some surprising results.
Syria, for example, placed at number 55, making it safer than countries including Latvia (66), Lithuania (71) and Andorra (98).
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But having said that, I already believed this was probably the safest country in the world, I just think the study is rather useless.
Cue LiB. I'm sure he has something to say about this ...
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Old 14.08.2015, 12:31
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Re: Switzerland ranked world safest country

I'm sure some Jedi Knights would disagree

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/story/24122393
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Re: Switzerland ranked world safest country

Although Switzerland belongs to one of the safest countries in the world this report is completely rubbish, don't read the local read the original article http://www.valuepenguin.com/2015/07/...ountries-world
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Although Switzerland belongs to one of the safest countries in the world this report is completely rubbish, don't read the local read the original article http://www.valuepenguin.com/2015/07/...ountries-world


The figures of SYRIA of course are based on PRE civil-war times. Then it makes sense. Lebanon, unless Israel attacks again, will make its way up
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Re: Switzerland ranked world safest country

It's a crock of shit. There's just as much stuff going on in Switzerland as anywhere else, relative to the size of the country.

It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner.
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It's a crock of shit. There's just as much stuff going on in Switzerland as anywhere else, relative to the size of the country.

It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner.
Bitter much?
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Old 17.08.2015, 10:16
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Bitter much?
Nope, not bitter at all. & bitter about what? What I said is the truth. Period.
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It's a crock of shit. There's just as much stuff going on in Switzerland as anywhere else, relative to the size of the country.
I guess interpreting statistics isn't your forte.

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Nope, not bitter at all. & bitter about what?
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It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner.
Being a foreigner? In a safe country?

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What I said is the truth. Period.
Well glad that's settled then.
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It's a crock of shit. There's just as much stuff going on in Switzerland as anywhere else, relative to the size of the country.

It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner.

Why do you conclude that "stuff going on" is not talked about ?
Why do you talk as if the study had been done in Switzerland ?
When exactly did New York join the Swiss Confederation ?





>>> Nope, not bitter at all. & bitter about what? What I said is the truth. Period. ????
NO, it is NOT. And it is NOT up to you to declare the end of a discussion
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It's a crock of shit. There's just as much stuff going on in Switzerland as anywhere else, relative to the size of the country.

It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner.
While I do agree that the study is not very useful, I think your logic isn't quite right. Did you read the study? For example, the study does adjust for population, so the statistic normalizes the size of the countries. It isn't perfect, but it is better than using raw data. Also, the study is not just about crime, it also includes factors such as CO2 emissions, traffic deaths and average life expectancy. Granted life expectancy includes murder, but that is a small weight in average life expectancy, it much more is a reflection of a country's health care system (starting with prenatal care all the way through old age).

Last, who commits the crimes isn't discussed at all, so I'm not sure why you brought that up. Perhaps you should actually read the article before commenting about it, there is plenty wrong with the study, just not what you said.
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While I do agree that the study is not very useful, I think your logic isn't quite right. Did you read the study? For example, the study does adjust for population, so the statistic normalizes the size of the countries. It isn't perfect, but it is better than using raw data. Also, the study is not just about crime, it also includes factors such as CO2 emissions, traffic deaths and average life expectancy. Granted life expectancy includes murder, but that is a small weight in average life expectancy, it much more is a reflection of a country's health care system (starting with prenatal care all the way through old age).

Last, who commits the crimes isn't discussed at all, so I'm not sure why you brought that up. Perhaps you should actually read the article before commenting about it, there is plenty wrong with the study, just not what you said.
Well, I have been to a significantly bigger industrialized nation with lower crime and especially homicide rate: Japan. Happens to have an extremely high life expectancy as well... so those CO2 emissions must be weighted rather weirdly. (and what do they have to do with "safety" anyway?)

Besides Japan did I also subjectively feel safer in both Singapore and Hong Kong... in Switzerland do you see groups of teenagers on a weekend night and wonder if they will do something stupid. In the developed parts of Asia do the groups of teenagers see me and wonder if the foreigner will do something stupid...

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... so those CO2 emissions must be weighted rather weirdly. (and what do they have to do with "safety" anyway?
There have been numerous studies attempting to understand if there is an association between air pollution and mortality. Many studies for air pollution and respiratory illnesses as well, especially asthma. I suspect the study is using CO2 as a surrogate for air pollution in general. There probably aren't many other ways to make a comparison between countries for air pollution as the authors only have the data that the specific country collects.

But I agree the study is flawed. I'm not even sure conducting a decent study about safety between countries is really even possible. As you pointed out, it is very subjective (on even what parameters should be included). And I'd go further, and say the differences in collecting reliable data within a country due to resources, political and cultural differences can have an enormous impact....so maybe Wife of a Swiss has a point when she said "It's just not talked about or blamed on a foreigner."
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But I agree the study is flawed. I'm not even sure conducting a decent study about safety between countries is really even possible. As you pointed out, it is very subjective (on even what parameters should be included). And I'd go further, and say the differences in collecting reliable data within a country due to resources, political and cultural differences can have an enormous impact.
In other words: it's the same macro-economical bullshit as the yearly list of cities with the "best" quality of life... it's impossible to define "best" as it is very subjective how you weight factors. The same is true for "safety".
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In other words: it's the same macro-economical bullshit as the yearly list of cities with the "best" quality of life... it's impossible to define "best" as it is very subjective how you weight factors. The same is true for "safety".
Everything is a top 10 list nowadays....I blame David Letterman (probably need to be American to understand the reference)
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Re: Switzerland ranked world safest country

Regardless of how they worked things out in the study, look at it this way:
Every night: close windows; lock security gates and doors with at least 2 locks; arm the alarm system; check motion sensor security lights are on; wake up every time a dog barks and check out the windows for intruders.
Daily: ensure that the front gates to the property are closed/locked; do not let your children roam alone outside of your perimeter fence/wall; be alert for suspicious characters looking into yards; lock your car at all times, even when you are in it; be alert every time you stop at a red traffic light/stop street.
If this is not part of your lifestyle, then you are in a safe place and really have little to moan about. Last I looked, Switzerland had an annual murder rate almost equal to that of South Africa's daily murder rate.
In conclusion, whether first on the list or realistically a little further down I would be eternally grateful to have that kind of lifestyle for my family.
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Regardless of how they worked things out in the study, look at it this way:
Every night: close windows; lock security gates and doors with at least 2 locks; arm the alarm system; check motion sensor security lights are on; wake up every time a dog barks and check out the windows for intruders.
Daily: ensure that the front gates to the property are closed/locked; do not let your children roam alone outside of your perimeter fence/wall; be alert for suspicious characters looking into yards; lock your car at all times, even when you are in it; be alert every time you stop at a red traffic light/stop street.
If this is not part of your lifestyle, then you are in a safe place and really have little to moan about. Last I looked, Switzerland had an annual murder rate almost equal to that of South Africa's daily murder rate.
In conclusion, whether first on the list or realistically a little further down I would be eternally grateful to have that kind of lifestyle for my family.
What? It's that bad? Perhaps you should try what we do here, just don't talk about it or blame it on a foreigner.
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Re: Switzerland ranked world safest country

Well I did sugar coat some of it and tried to keep it short, some parts are even worse.


There are areas where it is a bit better(not much) and generally you need lots of money to live in those areas and they are only better due to more armed response companies, higher walls/electric fences and generally you live in a secure estate.


But on the bright side, we have loads of foreigners we can blame it on. Choose any African country's nationality to blame and we have a load of them.
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it's safe until you fall off a mountain
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