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English-speakers are law-abiding residents in Switzerland

Citizens of North American and northern European countries are model residents of Switzerland, according to Swiss crime statistics. Citizens of Ireland, UK, US, Canada and India have among the lowest crime rates in Switzerland, lower than Swiss citizens. Citizens of Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Japan, China, Greece and Mexico, all who undoubtedly speak English at a high level, also have low crime rates. See slides on pp. 20-22 for details:

http://boris.unibe.ch/65004/1/Migrat...2014-Crime.pdf

Crime statistics for Aussies and Kiwis are not mentioned, possibly for a good reason.
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Citizens of North American and northern European countries are model residents of Switzerland, according to Swiss crime statistics. Citizens of Ireland, UK, US, Canada and India have among the lowest crime rates in Switzerland, lower than Swiss citizens. Citizens of Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Japan, China, Greece and Mexico, all who undoubtedly speak English at a high level, also have low crime rates. See slides on pp. 20-22 for details:

http://boris.unibe.ch/65004/1/Migrat...2014-Crime.pdf

Crime statistics for Aussies and Kiwis are not mentioned, possibly for a good reason.
Because we're all on EF. This keeps us off the streets and out of harm's way.
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Because we're all on EF. This keeps us off the streets and out of harm's way.
Nah, we're just better at hiding our crimes.

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Time we kicked these criminal Swiss out and keep Switzerland low crime
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Speaking English makes you honest. Who knew...
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Speaking English makes you honest. Who knew...
On reading that my first thought was "Nixon"
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It looks like Donald Trump is wrong about the Mexicans being major criminals!
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Speaking English makes you honest. Who knew...
It's simply not possible to say something untrue in English.
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Re: English-speakers are law-abiding residents in Switzerland

The study left out economic standing:
Those well off are much less likely to become criminal (officially, that is) than those less-well off. Immigrants from anglosaxon countries probably tend to being among the former.

Add the fact that some white-collar crimes are much less likely to be reported (hence the "official" above) in the first place and you may even get higher "real" crime rates. But of course these would by definition be not based on hard facts such as court verdicts.
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It looks like Donald Trump is wrong about the Mexicans being major criminals!
If he says it in English it must be right.
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Re: English-speakers are law-abiding residents in Switzerland

FINALLY

So we can make English an official language now surely?
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The study left out economic standing:
Those well off are much less likely to become criminal (officially, that is) than those less-well off. Immigrants from anglosaxon countries probably tend to being among the former.
Tages-Anzeiger listed the median incomes for married couples (and singles) living in Zurich. As can be seen, the English-speaking nationalities are not the highest earners but still have lower crime rates than all other nationalities listed:

Married Couples, Median Taxable Income, Zurich, by Nationality:
1. French: CHF 119'100
2. British: CHF 104'400
3. German: CHF 100'000
4. Swiss: CHF 80'000
5. Austrian: CHF 80'000
6. American: CHF 80'000
7. Spanish: CHF 70'500
8. Indian: CHF 65'200
9. Portuguese: CHF 61'400
10. Italian: CHF 60'100

The conclusion has to be that English-speaking nationalities are simply more noble.

http://blog.tagesanzeiger.ch/datenbl...-der-schweizer
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The conclusion has to be that English-speaking nationalities are simply more noble.
I'd like to see the crime statistics graphed against tea consumption and coffee consumption. Maybe *that's* the explanation for the British and Irish having the lowest scores...
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Re: English-speakers are law-abiding residents in Switzerland

I'm from the USA, so I'd like to take pride in these numbers, but it's too bad their statistics were taken from those accused and not actually proven guilty of their crimes... (slide 29 "beschuldigt =/schuldig") This seems to only reveal who the Swiss like to accuse of crimes than the actual criminals. I'd love to see the actual numbers though.
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... white-collar crimes...
I'd wager one white collar does more damage to the fabric of society than 1000 foreign nasties, but that would force a bit of introspection and we can't have that.
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I'm from the USA, so I'd like to take pride in these numbers, but it's too bad their statistics were taken from those accused and not actually proven guilty of their crimes... (slide 29 "beschuldigt =/schuldig") This seems to only reveal who the Swiss like to accuse of crimes than the actual criminals. I'd love to see the actual numbers though.
Feel free to locate better numbers so long as they support the thesis that English-speakers are noble and exceptional. If Big Pharma employee crime statistics could somehow be separated from the rest, the scores should be even better!
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I'd wager one white collar does more damage to the fabric of society than 1000 foreign nasties, but that would force a bit of introspection and we can't have that.
I tend to disagree. Just consider what the Ausschaffungsinitiative and the Durchsetzungsinitiative consider worth being deported for - white-collar crimes are left out completely.

Perhaps this is a consequence of the societal hierarchy? People in general lick the arse of those above, tread on those below them. The lower rungs tend to have increased crime rates, especially blue-collar crimes.
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I tend to disagree. Just consider what the Ausschaffungsinitiative and the Durchsetzungsinitiative consider worth being deported for - white-collar crimes are left out completely.

Perhaps this is a consequence of the societal hierarchy? People in general lick the arse of those above, tread on those below them. The lower rungs tend to have increased crime rates, especially blue-collar crimes.
The Hollywood rule seems to be in play: don't get caught. I wonder what the cost to society is from those Angolan dealers and Croatian BMW drivers compared to the actions of immaculately tailored executives in anonymous glass fortresses in Schwyz?

The initiatives are smoke and mirrors, distractions from the real nastiness which occurs in the corridors of power, not the streets of our modest inner cities. Deportation for speeding or sharing a spliff are ridiculous reasons to exile and disrupt families. Corporate fraud running into billions? Pah, hush hush... they're all English speakers! Whiter than white!

Heads on pikes Perp Walks at Paradeplatz may modify behaviour but can you change human nature with light touch regulation? Oh, sorry. That wasn't the question. Apologies.

KPMG has identified the profile of a professional person most likely to commit crimes in the work place.

The “average” white collar criminal is male, aged between 36 and 55, and will have been at his company for at least five years.

Senior managers that hold a finance related role (for example, accountants or financial officers) are the most likely perpetrators.

Finance positions accounted for 32% of fraud cases, followed by chief executives (26%), operations/sales employees (25%), procurement specialists (8%) and board members (7%).

The remaining culprits were in the back office or research and development areas – but represented a tiny fraction of perpetrators.

Offenders are often extrovert in character, in many cases domineering in the work place, evade questions, refuse to take long holidays and are apt to take risks.

The main motivation was funding an expensive lifestyle, disillusionment with the company or being under pressure to deliver on targets.


Source: Swissinfo
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Re: English-speakers are law-abiding residents in Switzerland

Non-Swiss in Switzerland must also comply with the foreigner law (Ausländergesetz). This increases the chance for all foreigners, including English-speakers, to run afoul of laws that Swiss don't have to comply with. Yet English-speaking nationalities have a lower crime rate than Swiss. This clearly demonstrates the exceptional quality of English-speakers in this country.
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Tages-Anzeiger listed the median incomes for married couples (and singles) living in Zurich. As can be seen, the English-speaking nationalities are not the highest earners but still have lower crime rates than all other nationalities listed:

Married Couples, Median Taxable Income, Zurich, by Nationality:
1. French: CHF 119'100
2. British: CHF 104'400
3. German: CHF 100'000
4. Swiss: CHF 80'000
5. Austrian: CHF 80'000
6. American: CHF 80'000
7. Spanish: CHF 70'500
8. Indian: CHF 65'200
9. Portuguese: CHF 61'400
10. Italian: CHF 60'100

The conclusion has to be that English-speaking nationalities are simply more noble.

http://blog.tagesanzeiger.ch/datenbl...-der-schweizer
so racist! i demand my extra 15kCHF!
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