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05.01.2010, 23:23
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | Great minds think alike :-)
Have you actually stayed there? (I only saw it on tv) | | | | | Haven't actually stayed there but have considered it. With rooms from CHF10 to CHF30 per night it isn't much to lay out to investigate.
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05.01.2010, 23:41
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | For once, thank-you for resurrecting an old thread. That was a great read. The car park under Basel University Hospital is a nuclear bunker, and has pretty impressive blast doors.
Back in 1999, I spent the night (about 3 hours plus half a bottle of whisky ) with my son's scout troup (and a few others) in the ex-secret Nuclear Bunker at Kelvedon Hatch, near Basildon, England. Quite disturbing it was too. | | | | | I have 2 acres of land with a large undergound amunition bunker at St. Margarets Cliff; Dover which was built in the second world war with implode /explode walls to store the shells for the 19" guns that were there to fire into the Channel and Calais during the second world war.
It is no comparison to the well engineered Swiss bunkers.
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06.01.2010, 00:16
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | I have 2 acres of land with a large undergound amunition bunker at St. Margarets Cliff; Dover which was built in the second world war with implode /explode walls to store the shells for the 19" guns that were there to fire into the Channel and Calais during the second world war.
It is no comparison to the well engineered Swiss bunkers. | | | | | Can you use it ?? B&B would be nice | 
06.01.2010, 00:29
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | I have 2 acres of land with a large undergound amunition bunker at St. Margarets Cliff; Dover which was built in the second world war with implode /explode walls to store the shells for the 19" guns that were there to fire into the Channel and Calais during the second world war.
It is no comparison to the well engineered Swiss bunkers. | | | | | Cashboy or Landboy?
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06.01.2010, 00:45
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | I have 2 acres of land with a large undergound amunition bunker | | | | | You think that's impressive?
My family's ancestral pile in the heart of Staffordshire was requisitioned by the government during the second world war, and used to build a secret subterranean base for submarines.
In addition to the cathedral-like cavern in which the submarines were kept, there is a fully functioning aerodrome, a military hospital, and accommodation for 7000 servicemen.
On the surface, you see nothing more than a slightly shabby neo-classical house, a bit worn at the edges, the kind of place you might go to attend conferences on 'goal oriented management', or take part in 'team building' activities involving a couple of tractor tyres, twenty yards of old netting and Tracey from accounts getting her t-shirt very, very wet indeed in a chilly pool with a rope across it.
Meanwhile, half a mile below the peacefully grazing cattle in the extensive parkland (designed by Culpability Brown), unknown to all except the several hundred thousand people who have lived and worked there over the last 70 years, lies a teeming Hadean metropolis, full of submarines, aeroplanes and pretty young nurses in pristine starched white dresses.
I've never been there, mind. My Uncle told me all about it...
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06.01.2010, 00:51
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | Can you use it ?? B&B would be nice  | | | | | The Taliban might find it useful as B&B in its present state
I can use it but have never thought of what to do with it.
Because there are two mounds of earth to protect the bunker underneath I did think about trying to build a miniture castle.
I bought it in 1990 because I got it really cheap.
It makes me think of that Monty Pythons sketch with the old woman that bought a piston engine because it was cheap. When she was asked why she bought it; her answer was ; "Ooh I didn't think of that; but it was really really cheap".
I have only bothered to go to it six times in all that time. If you know Dover; it is about 300 metres from the Light House on Dover cliffs and on a nice day you can see the coast of Calais from it.
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | You think that's impressive?
My family's ancestral pile in the heart of Staffordshire was requisitioned by the government during the second world war, and used to build a secret subterranean base for submarines.
In addition to the cathedral-like cavern in which the submarines were kept, there is a fully functioning aerodrome, a military hospital, and accommodation for 7000 servicemen.
On the surface, you see nothing more than a slightly shabby neo-classical house, a bit worn at the edges, the kind of place you might go to attend conferences on 'goal oriented management', or take part in 'team building' activities involving a couple of tractor tyres, twenty yards of old netting and Tracey from accounts getting her t-shirt very, very wet indeed in a chilly pool with a rope across it.
Meanwhile, half a mile below the peacefully grazing cattle in the extensive parkland (designed by Culpability Brown), unknown to all except the several hundred thousand people who have lived and worked there over the last 70 years, lies a teeming Hadean metropolis, full of submarines, aeroplanes and pretty young nurses in pristine starched white dresses.
I've never been there, mind. My Uncle told me all about it... | | | | | Fancy doing a swap | 
06.01.2010, 00:53
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | Fancy doing a swap | | | | | Nah... yours is too close to France. | 
06.01.2010, 01:12
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | I would like to visit the Sonnenberg bunker.
Does someone know if it's open to the public?
Any other interesting big bunker to visit? | | | | |
You might start with the cellar in your house ! Ever wondered about those heavy metals doors ?
You might ask the Stadtverwaltung, who will tell you where to find such facilities.
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | so just out of curosity - who maintain these places and how? - are they used for some alternative purpose in the meantime? or do they just lie empty till the day comes - or hopefully never comes... | | | | | Most such places are used by the armed forces and the Zivilschutz, but also are used by medical services.
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06.01.2010, 01:22
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | |
and a bit closer to Zurich ...
| | | | | Actually in Zürich are the air raid shelters under the Marktplatz in Oerlikon and in Wipkingen (scroll down for the english text). The latter can be visited.
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06.01.2010, 09:15
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | For once, thank-you for resurrecting an old thread. That was a great read. The car park under Basel University Hospital is a nuclear bunker, and has pretty impressive blast doors. | | | | | The Basel University Hospital Bunker is indeed impressive in size and state of readiness (The newly installed lifts can still be capped with a nearby placed concrete slab)
There are many interesting bunkers in Basel, some of smaller ones open as Kellers at Fasnacht and are just domestic large fallout shelters, but a interesting example is the "new" Ratz Keller in Claraplatz, as it is in an old military hospital bunker built under the tram stop ( http://www.raetz.ch/aktuell/seiten/aks1.html) and is huge as can be seen on the plan in the link above, unfortunately it is not as interesting now as it was a year or so back when most of the hospital was still in place.
One of the old large ones at Jakobsberg even has/had its own tram stop and tram parking ( http://www.g-st.ch/trambasel/bvb_blt...akobsberg.html) | Quote: | |  | | | Most such places are used by the armed forces and the Zivilschutz, but also are used by medical services. | | | | | Or in the case of the Zivilschutz in Basel, can be rented for accommodation for large groups ( http://www.rettung-bs.ch/anlagevermietung.html), including the very large one under the Messe accessed by a ramp that "magically" appears out of the park nearby  .
As you can imagine many of these former bunkers are used for many different things. I have been to many converted into datacentres for IT. Getting the heat out seems to the major task in converting, but the heat from a former one in Zurich is now being used to heat a local swimming pool
There are many many more I could bore you with, but really shouldn't
Pat
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter
Another one to visit but not open during the winter: Festung Fürigen | 
06.01.2010, 12:38
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter | Quote: | |  | | | You think that's impressive?
Meanwhile, half a mile below the peacefully grazing cattle in the extensive parkland (designed by Culpability Brown), unknown to all except the several hundred thousand people who have lived and worked there over the last 70 years, lies a teeming Hadean metropolis, full of submarines, aeroplanes and pretty young nurses in pristine starched white dresses.
I've never been there, mind. My Uncle told me all about it... | | | | | I am looking for a friend of mine she is a nurse,her name is Katy Nightingale .Long legs .average tits ,red hair ,red eyes ,she always looks a little waterlogged.Can your Uncel please inquire for me.There is a reward for her find 12 1/2 quip yea she also gone be 74 in Dec.
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06.01.2010, 17:00
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| | | Re: BBC News: Sonnenberg Tunnel/Shelter
if you ever visit dover in kent, uk it has a good network of tunnels all kitted out for use in a war.
as for ch ....if ever the hare was naughty , he was regularly marched to the bunker "to think about what youve done " ...quite good fun for an 11 year old with vivid imagination.
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