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03.07.2009, 09:03
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| | | Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
Some students from Zurich were bored on their class trip and started to attack people in Munich, randomly and unprovoked.
The news in English is a bit short. German article.
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03.07.2009, 09:20
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
Bloody shocking! Boot camp and birch comes to mind.
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03.07.2009, 09:34
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
Not really surprising, sadly enough. | | This user would like to thank tomcat for this useful post: | | 
03.07.2009, 09:41
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
i think the crown prosecutor sends the right signal: its not only an assault, they're accused of attempted murder.
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03.07.2009, 10:12
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" What the hell is the matter with these subhuman psychos? They are bloody 15 – 16 year old! “We’re bored, let’s nearly kill somebody”. Have these guys never heard about having a beer and flirt with the girls type of fun? Is it me or do these unprovoked attacks happen more and more? | | This user would like to thank E. Neubauten for this useful post: | | 
03.07.2009, 10:12
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
That's just sooo sick, this incident I mean and I couldn't care less what nationality they are. young lives are ruined doing such sh1t stuff.
I've just subscribed to a Criminology course which I will start after my Summer vacation.
One section will be about Understanding Youth Crime.
Understand why youths turn to crime and why everyone has a role in supporting youth and preventing youth crime.
Has society, school and the parents done their part I wonder.
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03.07.2009, 10:12
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Some students from Zurich were bored on their class trip and started to attack people in Munich, randomly and unprovoked.
The news in English is a bit short. German article. | | | | | Let's just hope they will be put on trial in Germany because in Switzerland they would probably get away with 1 year psychiatric treatment. I rather would like to have them locked away for the rest of their lives.
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03.07.2009, 10:18
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
They need to be neutered.
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03.07.2009, 10:19
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... We've got plenty of psychos here unfortunately, and it's for once not more media coverage that gives a wrong light on declining crime... it is rising every year, and getting more brutal too. Easy to witness in Zürich, I feel really bad for tourists visiting here who get harrassed by these assholes.
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03.07.2009, 10:28
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... We've got plenty of psychos here unfortunately, and it's for once not more media coverage that gives a wrong light on declining crime... it is rising every year, and getting more brutal too. Easy to witness in Zürich, I feel really bad for tourists visiting here who get harrassed by these assholes. | | | | | aha, of course "real" swiss kids would never do this..... | | The following 11 users would like to thank E. Neubauten for this useful post: | Dougal's Breakfast, Grant Green, kiwiguy08, lobd, mabern, Nalmasi, Nickers, tantrum, tomcat, zanskar, zazu888 | 
03.07.2009, 10:28
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... | | | | | My understanding from reading the article was that 2 of them were Swiss without "migration background".
This is from NZZ: "Bei den drei Hauptverdächtigen handelt es sich um zwei Schweizer Staatsbürger und einen Slowenen. Ausserdem nahm die Polizei einen Portugiesen und einen Schweizer mit Migrationshintergrund fest."
Doesn't make much of a difference, though.
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03.07.2009, 10:30
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... We've got plenty of psychos here unfortunately, and it's for once not more media coverage that gives a wrong light on declining crime... it is rising every year, and getting more brutal too. Easy to witness in Zürich, I feel really bad for tourists visiting here who get harrassed by these assholes. | | | | | Where did you find this gem of information and what difference does it make? Ah, I forgot, furners are to blame for all things not well in Swissieland. | | This user would like to thank tomcat for this useful post: | | 
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... We've got plenty of psychos here unfortunately, and it's for once not more media coverage that gives a wrong light on declining crime... it is rising every year, and getting more brutal too. Easy to witness in Zürich, I feel really bad for tourists visiting here who get harrassed by these assholes. | | | | | Must be the foreigners - you happen to be swiss I presume? Says a lot mate.
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03.07.2009, 10:32
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
Not foreigners really, they're all from the same region, consult any police statistic if you must.
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03.07.2009, 10:33
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add... We've got plenty of psychos here unfortunately, and it's for once not more media coverage that gives a wrong light on declining crime... it is rising every year, and getting more brutal too. Easy to witness in Zürich, I feel really bad for tourists visiting here who get harrassed by these assholes. | | | | |
Not surprising at all because obviously crime is only caused by foreigners   Have you been listening to too many SVP rants by any chance??
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
NZZ has more details (in German). http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/zueric...1.2882615.html
3 main suspects, 2 of which Swiss, 1 furner.
All supposedly have a prior history with police (presumably in Swissieland).
Now there is hope that slightly harsher justice will be applied. http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/zueric...1.2882552.html
Since it is a criminal offense, they will be tried in Germany under German law.
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03.07.2009, 10:35
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Not foreigners really, they're all from the same region, consult any police statistic if you must. | | | | | Absolutely, the region all these kids are from is the area of Küssnacht till Meilen, known as "Goldcoast" to most.
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03.07.2009, 10:36
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun"
(rant mode on)
Simon ... first you post this | Quote: | |  | | | Not very surprisingly they're all from a migration background I must add .... | | | | | then this | Quote: | |  | | | Not foreigners really, they're all from the same region, consult any police statistic if you must. | | | | | Dude, with your sense of tolerance towards furners in Swissieland, WTF are you doing hanging out on something called the English Forum? Doesn't the SVP have an Internet forum that would be more suitable?
(rant mode off)
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03.07.2009, 10:36
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | aha, of course "real" swiss kids would never do this..... | | | | | Happens as well, but more more rare. Most European countries import a lot of their crime by making it easier for a young, male, uneducated Serb or Turk to enter the country than for an educated Indian woman for example. We've got only ourselves to blame for our failed politics. | Quote: |  | | | Dude, with your sense of tolerance towards furners in Swissieland, WTF are you doing hanging out on something called the English Forum? Doesn't the SVP have an Internet forum that would be more suitable? | | | | | Mister German, why don't you ever bother to read my posts ? 3 out of 4 groans are from you, despite me stating again and again that I rather have much more English, German, Italian, Chinese whatever foreigners here in Switzerland who are willing to integrate or at least abide by the law, than young male assholes from the Balkans who systematically abuse our system. I have a foreign girlfriend, I have lived abroad for a couple of years, love to travel and am extremely tolerant of people, lifestyles, cultures etc. I loved travelling to Turkey and liked the people, but we are attracting the wrong ones even from those region I have my biggest reservations about. Solidarizing with a murdering Slovene just because you're a foreigner too sounds extremely silly to me. rant over.
edit: I want Switzerland to be more accessible, more open, more cosmopolitan for people all over the world. Doubt that will happen anytime soon in a society where a good majority of serious crime is committed by foreigners. We can't be tolerant towards intolerance, and we can only have a liberal, free and safe country if we're heavy handed against those who abuse it.
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03.07.2009, 11:08
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| | | Re: Swiss students nearly kill a 46 year old "for fun" | Quote: | |  | | | Happens as well, but more more rare. Most European countries import a lot of their crime by making it easier for a young, male, uneducated Serb or Turk to enter the country than for an educated Indian woman for example. We've got only ourselves to blame for our failed politics.
Mister German, why don't you ever bother to read my posts ? 3 out of 4 groans are from you, despite me stating again and again that I rather have much more English, German, Italian, Chinese whatever foreigners here in Switzerland who are willing to integrate or at least abide by the law, than young male assholes from the Balkans who systematically abuse our system. I have a foreign girlfriend, I have lived abroad for a couple of years, love to travel and am extremely tolerant of people, lifestyles, cultures etc. I loved travelling to Turkey and liked the people, but we are attracting the wrong ones even from those region I have my biggest reservations about. Solidarizing with a murdering Slovene just because you're a foreigner too sounds extremely silly to me. rant over.
edit: I want Switzerland to be more accessible, more open, more cosmopolitan for people all over the world. Doubt that will happen anytime soon in a society where a good majority of serious crime is committed by foreigners. We can't be tolerant towards intolerance, and we can only have a liberal, free and safe country if we're heavy handed against those who abuse it. | | | | | I know the sentiment you describe, but my beef with your remark was more the “if something is wrong, it must have been foreigners” reflex I see/hear more and more nowadays. Not only in CH by the way. According to the newspaper at least 2 of the kids were actually Swiss, yet you and probably a lot of people immediately think or point out the assumed foreign background of those w**nkers. Anyway, I don’t want this thread to end up in a “are the Swiss racist” kinda thing (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid). It is worrying enough that kids of this age act like that.
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