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Old 14.12.2009, 07:35
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Re: Swiss Senator Dick Marty: “Something is culturally wrong in Switzerland”

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I am watching this. Are programs like this shown in Switzerland?

What the west needs to know about Islam.

The first interview was with the foreign affairs editor of 'Chronicles Magazine' which describes itself as a 'leading paleoconservative journal'. I stopped watching after that.
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Old 14.12.2009, 07:44
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Re: Swiss Senator Dick Marty: “Something is culturally wrong in Switzerland”

THIS is what in France the then Interior Minister Sarkozy managed to achieve for France (the man is neither anti-Arab nor anti-Islam). And this is what the leader (by respect, not by function) of the Arab community in Switzerland, Prof Dr Amin has said all along, but in vain.

But such an umbrella organisation has not to rule but to co-ordinate and to communicate and to mediate. I hope for the best.
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Old 14.12.2009, 07:56
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Yes. Possibly not IN Switzerland, but by the channels SEEN in Switzerland.
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Old 14.12.2009, 12:34
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Re: Swiss Senator Dick Marty: “Something is culturally wrong in Switzerland”


Great. Sounds like positive action.

I'd also like to see the work Muslims do in their communities being discussed in the public arena. I believe highlighting the positive aspects would help build trust. For example, showing how they lead children away from drugs and crime would score positive points.
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Old 14.12.2009, 16:45
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The first interview was with the foreign affairs editor of 'Chronicles Magazine' which describes itself as a 'leading paleoconservative journal'. I stopped watching after that.
I watched the whole thing. I tried to view it with an open mind , some points I agreed with in the beginning, then I started laughing at how ridiculous it was. Non of those interviewed are truly credible. Some have pen names that hide their true identity and mislead viewers.The ex- Hamas turned Christian man reminded me of the terrorist interviewed by Borat (in fact the the guy on the Borat film claims he is just a shopkeeper and is suing Borat) However the problem is that this is what people believe; that all Muslims have a hidden agenda to conquer the world and the Swiss along with all Europeans are destined to become dhimmies.

If Swiss Muslims want to be accepted they have to allay these fears, they must become more visible and open about their religion, otherwise more may believe that they have something to hide. Religious leaders have a responsibility to set an example. There is unrest in Turkey, the Turkish courts banned the pro -Kurdish DTP for having links with the PKK. So violence erupted. What happens in Switzerland with ethnic Turks can influence what happens in Turkey. The more influence the Swiss have with Turkey, to my mind, the better, but they need to start with meaningful dialogue and cooperation, not misunderstanding, suspicion and alienation. For the ordinary Swiss, Switzerland will benefit from closer economic ties (electricity form the gas that flows through Turkey is one example) and a better economy is beneficial to all.

I guess anyone can be made into a terrorist!
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Old 14.12.2009, 18:10
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I guess if you can't beat them join them-Iranian men start wearing headscarves Funny! But well done guys!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-1839889.html
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Old 14.12.2009, 21:22
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That's a disturbing video.
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Old 14.12.2009, 21:53
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That's a disturbing video.
Yep, sorry Phos didn't want to give you nightmares. what is behind it is scary. before watching this I watched The Architect of Doom

it was fascinating viewing and I couldn't help seeing parallels- but maybe that is just me. I don't mind if it is deleted from the thread. I just thought that it is out there and needs to be challenged.

Got to go do my volunteering!
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