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Old 25.02.2010, 02:37
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Are you seriously equating the discrimination between the Irsh and black people?


Actually, YES.

It weren't always black people who were slaves honey.

Does "indentured servant" really seem like it would have been so much better? (That's how some of MY ancestors arrived in the US...)

If you think so, why not ask some of the folk who come to the US (or anywhere better-off) these days and are held in a state of indebted servitude until such time as they can pay back the monies spent to bring them over...
I'm not sure how much you think nail techs or restaurant kitchen help makes in an hour (or a week or a month) but I'm willing to bet it isn't enough to make a life AND pay off those kind of debts.

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In my lifetime america was segregated and although laws have passed if your black and poor you are still at a disadvantage.As in many countries dont you get it?
Actually, if you travel around a bit in the US, you can easily see that it is STILL segregated, just not in any "official" way. (Drive around Savannah for a while but make sure you are actually paying attention or else you may miss what it plainly obvious to anyone with open eyes.)

Meanwhile, in some areas of the US, Irish (or more specifically Catholic Irish) face discrimination as well...

Much like Sharkey's example regarding Paddy, my grandmother detests the nickname "Mick" and "Mickey" as it was also used in unkind ways to refer to (read: single out and vilify) Irish immigrants when she was young.


WAKE UP and smell the coffee. Discrimination is a lot more complicated than simple "black and white."
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Old 25.02.2010, 07:10
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Do you have any sense of humour? or are you always very negative.

Just wondering....cause you do give very helpful info regarding some posts but I think you forgot how to laugh man. for f sakes
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Old 25.02.2010, 07:41
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Re: 'Negroe' sweets

I was in Finnish Lapland a few years ago and found a packet of sweets named 'Pukin Pusi'.
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and of course they should re-name Serbia and Montenegro
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I am white,but not white.I am pinkish , but don't get any dumb ideas
when you are sick you are green
when you are hot you are red
when you are cold you are blue
you go white as a sheet when you are scared

and you dare to call ME colored ?
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Old 25.02.2010, 08:03
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Re: 'Negroe' sweets

There is a large bakery in Mexico called "Bimbo"
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To speak clearly, the word "Negro" is NOT an insult and not negative, while the word "nigger" IS an insult. And the German word Neger is not negative and not an insult

And a look into the German phone-book shows how widespread the family-name Neger (they are NOT Blacks ! ) actually is :
It's even worse, there are german origin people that have 'black negro' as a family name. What else would Schwarzenegger (like in the moviestar/governer of california) mean ?

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It's even worse, there are german origin people that have 'black negro' as a family name. What else would Schwarzenegger (like in the moviestar/governer of california) mean ?
"egger" could be derived from the word Ecke meaning corner.

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I think it comes from Äcker plural for fields as in "blackfields" rich medieval farmers..
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I think it comes from Äcker plural for fields as in "blackfields" rich medieval farmers..
...true indeed.
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I am certain you know not all "blacks"(correct term) come from Africa right? or live in the States.
I was shocked and disappointed to learn that the "all blacks" were in fact not!!
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Hello everybody !!!couldnt sleep.Ths is an interesting article...
This from a person so lazy that she couldn't be bothered to look at the packet of sweets to see where they actually came from.

This from a person so ignorant as to expect the word 'negro' to mean the same thing and have the same connotations in Croatia (or, for that matter, the entire Spanish and Portuguese speaking world) as it does in Wales.

This from a person so arrogant as to expect the people of Croatia - itself a nation subject to colonisation by a foreign power - to share the guilt (and consequent racial sensibilities) of nations which engaged in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

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Old 25.02.2010, 09:20
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Hello everybody !!!couldnt sleep.Ths is an interesting article


Susie, I (and I imagine most other EFer's) am not interested in Copy and Paste arguments. They do very little except clog up the thread.

If you want to argue your side, then feel free to do it. But please use your own words instead of cutting other peoples work from random websites. By all means feel free to link to an artricle you refer to, but I don't think we need it reproduced verbatim here.




You can link to a different webpage by copying the URL from the address bar. Then highlight the text in your post that you want to use as the link.(eg, in this sentence, the word link will bring you to a clip from 30 Rock, an award winning US comedy show)

Once you have the word highlighted, click on the button, and paste the URL in. Et Viola.
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Old 25.02.2010, 09:25
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can we move along to massive monthly salaries please ....
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Susie: Welcome to Europe! It's not America. We have a different history, different attitudes and even different languages.

Once you realize that racism goes beyond black vs. white throughout the world, you will finally become a greater person.

Some differences between the US and Switzerland:

- The Swiss do not stand up and say their "pledge of allegience" anywhere
- They allow their kids more freedom because "fear" has not become an overwhelming thought.
- It's OK to talk about politics
- When you are talking about racism in Switzerland, you need to be clear: is it against the ex-yugos, the Northern Africans, the Muslims or another nation/religion?
- The Catholic and Protestant religion is losing ground in Switzerland and, outside of its wonderful public holidays, no longer dictates the daily lives of the locals.
- Even the Swiss know that just because something is right in Switzerland, it doesn't make it right in other countries.
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They allow their kids more freedom because "fear" has not become an overwhelming thought.
What a moronic statement. You are comparing a country the size of Europe with a mere dot on a map. There are probably more children in the US than inhabitants in Switzerland....thus making your statement a blatant assumption.
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This from a person so lazy that she couldn't be bothered to look at the packet of sweets to see where they actually came from.

This from a person so ignorant as to expect the word 'negro' to mean the same thing and have the same connotations in Croatia (or, for that matter, the entire Spanish and Portuguese speaking world) as it does in Wales.

This from a person so arrogant as to expect the people of Croatia - itself a nation subject to colonisation by a foreign power - to share the guilt (and consequent racial sensibilities) of nations which engaged in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Isn't this what i said in post 46 and we're now on post 172 ? I thought this was meant to be a progessive forum, am i missing something ?
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It's even worse, there are german origin people that have 'black negro' as a family name. What else would Schwarzenegger (like in the moviestar/governer of california) mean ?
You divide at the wrong point. It is NOT Schwarze-Negger but rather
Schwarzen-Egger
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egger
and in full meant "Black haired Egger"

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- The Catholic and Protestant religion is losing ground in Switzerland and, outside of its wonderful public holidays, no longer dictates the daily lives of the locals.
Except for "no washing on Sundays"!
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Even the Swiss know that just because something is right in Switzerland, it doesn't make it right in other countries.
...are you so sure about that?
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