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Old 09.03.2010, 14:35
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Re: Little boy in my son's kindergarten class killed by father

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Of course not.

But if you haven't watched the news for weeks you don't go announcing stuff on the EF without first checking whether maybe it isn't already common knowledge.
OP explicitly acknowledged that the case probably was common knowledge - but she wanted to discuss it, and there wasn't a thread on it, so she started one. I really don't see the problem here.
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OP explicitly acknowledged that the case probably was common knowledge - but she wanted to discuss it, and there wasn't a thread on it, so she started one. I really don't see the problem here.
Thank you. What a disgrace that people seem so eager to turn this into a "Oooohh, you just heard? I knew about this weeks ago" and "If it were me, and my children, I would have had an immediate mindmeld with the world around me and known instantaneously ".

This is a horrible tragedy. Doesn't matter when you read about it in the papers or heard the neighbor talking about it.
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Old 09.03.2010, 16:57
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I don't think so.

I knew the names of our childrens' classmates when they were in Kindergarten, and if a photo and name of one of those children were all over the newspapers, I can't imagine how I would have missed it. Still, local school, local news. Impossible that the neighbourhood parents weren't talking about it.

As a parent I would rather my child heard this news from me, and not at school.
You should read more carefully, the OP said she was in vacation. I do agree totally with you, I'll prefered to give the news to my kid myself. But in this case, they weren't there and you can't expect someone to follow the news just because you do so.

You can't expect someone to act like you and give them a speech if they didn't.
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Old 09.03.2010, 17:03
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...yes. These 2 individuals should have never had kids in Switzerland.
You mean they should have had kids somewhere else???

I'm not sure what relevance to the discussion the mother's occupation has.
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I don't think so.

I knew the names of our childrens' classmates when they were in Kindergarten, and if a photo and name of one of those children were all over the newspapers, I can't imagine how I would have missed it. Still, local school, local news. Impossible that the neighbourhood parents weren't talking about it.

As a parent I would rather my child heard this news from me, and not at school.
Congratulations on your excellent parenting skills. Well done. I doubt any news story is going to get past you.
I'm sure the OP is going to be getting tips from you from now on.

FFS, there are times when opinions should be kept quiet but I know that's sometimes hard on a public internet forum.

Thanks for sharing them anyway.
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Old 09.03.2010, 17:11
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I'm not sure what relevance to the discussion the mother's occupation has.
I think it may have decreased her chances of her winning custody over her son.
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Old 09.03.2010, 17:26
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yes, and it'll be on the EF sooner or later anyway.

I thought I'd try and find out about this story, so I Googled (plain and news) "Swiss father killed son Brazilian" . . . top site . . . EF.

Quite difficult to find anything on this story in English.
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I thought I'd try and find out about this story, so I Googled (plain and news) "Swiss father killed son Brazilian" . . . top site . . . EF.

Quite difficult to find anything on this story in English.

Part of plan to keep Swiss utopia myth alive
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Re: Little boy in my son's kindergarten class killed by father

Pretty sickening stuff. I don't envy anyone trying to explain that to a six year old but at least at that age they bounce back very strongly and in a few days will quite possibly appear to have forgotten it ever happened. I remember a class mate of mine died in horrible circumstances when I was eight but that we all carried on playing the next day and quickly put it out of our minds. Somehow it was easier to deal with shocks at that age.

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You should read more carefully, the OP said she was in vacation. I do agree totally with you, I'll prefered to give the news to my kid myself. But in this case, they weren't there and you can't expect someone to follow the news just because you do so.

You can't expect someone to act like you and give them a speech if they didn't.
Yeah - it is a bit much to expect a parent on holiday to read local papers in the offchance that a headcase has killed a child from the kindergarten. Might have been good if the kindergarten had contacted the parents in advance???
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Whilst you're right, it's not just a Swiss phenomena - google "baby p".

You need permits for all kinds of things the world over but to have kids, you don't.
I have to agree with you on this one...they send people thru a rigorous system to adopt...IMHO they are going to have to do this with all people who want to reproduce...Or maybe create a medical procedure where everyone gets sterilzed at birth, and after certain requirements it will be reversed when they want to have children...I'm sure this idea may not be PC (politically correct) but it seems its just getting worse, but of course a system as such would cause a host of other problems...or maybe we have to do like China with the "one baby rule"...this goes for the developed and the developing world...O.K. done..

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Exactly!! For instance, I know of 2 women that just recently had kids...one was smoking during her pregnancy and the other one is still doing an apprenteship (thus no real income)....and none of them are married.
I am seriously in favour of everybody being sterilized from the get go...and if someone would want kids (definitely not me) then he/she could go and apply for a suitability test to see whether he/she should have kids....if approved he/she then would get the (natural) medical remedy to be able to produce and offspring....sounds harsh and controversial...but it would be highly logical and the only way humanity can survive in the long term.
Interesting LIB...I just wrote about the same idea before reading your post...It makes sense really...

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Old 09.03.2010, 18:19
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Interesting LIB...I just wrote about the same idea before reading your post...It makes sense really...
Who decides? The Nazis also had some sterilization ideas too
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Old 09.03.2010, 18:37
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Who decides? The Nazis also had some sterilization ideas too
..yes and right now, they practice eugenics in China...but nonetheless if more irresponsible s**theads are producing more irresponsible s**theads...then the s**theads keep multiplying..and thus we eventually will run out of food and space to live. Who decides?! I don't know..we are overpopulated right now...but what I do know, is that we need a solution....to all the smart commenters out there, yes I will try my best to refrain from spreading of my very own genes by not wanting to have children and thus making a small contribution to humankind.
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Who decides? The Nazis also had some sterilization ideas too
That is why I wrote "it could create a host of other problems"...It's not something that would probably happen but when you hear incidents like this happening its just makes you shake your head and then the ideas come...Earth is a drama with all the different individuals playing a part. Unfortunately some of us have to play the bad parts...
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Interesting LIB...I just wrote about the same idea before reading your post...It makes sense really...
Stop effing with me...people generally don't agree with my posts....really?
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..yes and right now, they practice eugenics in China...but nonetheless if more irresponsible s**theads are producing more irresponsible s**theads...then the s**theads keep multiplying..and thus we eventually will run out of food and space to live. Who decides?! I don't know..we are overpopulated right now...but what I do know, is that we need a solution....to all the smart commenters out there, yes I will try my best to refrain from spreading of my very own genes by not wanting to have children and thus making a small contribution to humankind.
By your reckoning, you possibly wouldn't even be here, writing about shitheads, writing about shitheads, wr,,...

Who gets to say what/who a shithead is anyway?
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By your reckoning, you possibly wouldn't even be here, writing about shitheads, writing about shitheads, wr,,...

Who gets to say what/who a shithead is anyway?
..you want me to elaborate a list..or simply state characteristics?
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Go ahead, write a list, with characteristics would be good too.
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Old 09.03.2010, 19:12
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Go ahead, write a list, with characteristics would be good too.
..I have nothing but one name for ya....humankind...humanity...us...everything we touch, we tend to mess up...is that good enough or did you expect a real list?
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..I have nothing but one name for ya....humankind...humanity...us...everything we touch, we tend to mess up...is that good enough or did you expect a real list?
Does that include Swiss People? Being part of Humankind I mean.
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Does that include Swiss People? Being part of Humankind I mean.
..ehmm, to me yes. It depends if they appear human to you.
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