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10.03.2010, 20:23
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| | | Bloody foreigners! http://www.google.com/publicdata/exp...en_US&dl=en_US
Is it really as high as that?
Regardless, it's a nice google tool for stats nerds.
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10.03.2010, 20:29
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Dunno, I'm too busy staring to count.
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10.03.2010, 20:46
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I would have expected the UK number to be higher but then they wouldn't have been able to count the illegals would they | | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
10.03.2010, 20:48
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners!
Switzerland looks pretty stable as Australia...Spain on the other hand | | This user groans at Angela-74 for this post: | | 
10.03.2010, 22:14
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners!
be interesting to see places like the bahamas, luxembourg and channel islands on there. i guess any small place which manages to become an international centre through tax reasons will attract foreign workers/companies.
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10.03.2010, 22:21
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | I would have expected the UK number to be higher but then they wouldn't have been able to count the illegals would they  | | | | | the share of foreigners in London or Manchester or Birmingham for sure IS higher, but if you look at the United Kingdom in general you realize that it nationwide is much lower. Look at cities like Exeter, Plymouth, Weymouth, Bath, Bristol, Newcastle, Brighton etc, and you see a fairly low share of foreigners
************************************************** *********************** | Quote: | |  | | | be interesting to see places like the bahamas, luxembourg and channel islands on there. i guess any small place which manages to become an international centre through tax reasons will attract foreign workers/companies. | | | | | I don't know about the Bahamas, but in case of Luxembourg, it is known. You can add some 5 or 7 % to the numbers for Switzerland and then you have it.
In case of the Channel Islands it is different. Most Brits you meet there are holidaysmakers and not permanent residents. The heavy presence of old-age Brits residing on the Channel Islands may bring about %-points comparable with Switzerland and Luxembourg.
************************************************** **** | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Of course it is. In Opfikon-Glattbrugg, the foreigners make up 42% of the population. And that figure does NOT include all former foreigners who got Swiss citizenship.
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10.03.2010, 22:22
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners!
It also depends on your definition of foreigner. A third generation Swiss born person with a Spanish passport is still called a foreigner.
And Australia, New Zealand, US, all these "new" nations (like, haven't had the same family in the same village since 1291) should really have more "foreigners" if you count anyone not pedigree of an indigenous people group.
(By this definition, I am a foreigner in every country!)
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10.03.2010, 22:37
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | It also depends on your definition of foreigner. A third generation Swiss born person with a Spanish passport is still called a foreigner.
And Australia, New Zealand, US, all these "new" nations (like, haven't had the same family in the same village since 1291) should really have more "foreigners" if you count anyone not pedigree of an indigenous people group.
(By this definition, I am a foreigner in every country!) | | | | |
In 1315, in the Battle am Morgarten, Zürich was staunchly imperial still as were states like Bern, Schaffhausen etc.
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Most foreigners in Switzerland, after roughly a decade, are encouraged to become Swiss.
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By your criteria, Australia has a foreign population of some 90% !
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Switzerland and most other continental European countries in fact have no statistics about who was born where as this is completely irrelevant.
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10.03.2010, 22:58
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners!
According to your graphics, 24% of the population or 100% of the foreigners are currently located on the Swiss-Austrian border. Maybe they're banging on Liechtenstein's front door but don't have enough money to be let in...?
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10.03.2010, 23:12
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Cheers for the link, I am a stats nerd (and have the certificate to prove it) | 
10.03.2010, 23:16
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | According to your graphics, 24% of the population or 100% of the foreigners are currently located on the Swiss-Austrian border. Maybe they're banging on Liechtenstein's front door but don't have enough money to be let in...? | | | | | Sorry but what graphics are you referring to ? The border area towards Austria is not densely populated by Swiss standards first of all. Foreign populations are centred in the areas of Zurich, Basel and Geneva.
Liechtenstein does not offer so many jobs really, as most of the companies "based" there are having their real offices elsewhere.
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10.03.2010, 23:35
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry but what graphics are you referring to ? The border area towards Austria is not densely populated by Swiss standards first of all. Foreign populations are centred in the areas of Zurich, Basel and Geneva.
Liechtenstein does not offer so many jobs really, as most of the companies "based" there are having their real offices elsewhere. | | | | | Irony lieber Wolli...
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10.03.2010, 23:55
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | Irony lieber Wolli... | | | | | Irony  Rather a dull example of "irony"  Possibly a St.Galler irony | 
11.03.2010, 00:08
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lol check out mexico and luxembourg.
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11.03.2010, 01:17
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners!
In Canada, foreign-born doesn't mean you're considered a foreigner. Although we know it's quite the opposite in CH.
Also in CH, there are many expats who are temporary denizens. Whereas in Canada, most foreigners are landed-immigrants who plan to stay.
Further, many foreigners in CH are from Germany and other neighbour countries.
So these stats need to be taken with a lot of consideration of how you interpret them.
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11.03.2010, 01:36
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | I would have expected the UK number to be higher but then they wouldn't have been able to count the illegals would they  | | | | | Yo! Another illegal! I was thinking I was the only one! People don't believe it when I tell them, what about you?
Obviously, I'm keeding...really. | Quote: | |  | | | In 1315, in the Battle am Morgarten, Zürich was staunchly imperial still as were states like Bern, Schaffhausen etc.
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Most foreigners in Switzerland, after roughly a decade, are encouraged to become Swiss.
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By your criteria, Australia has a foreign population of some 90% !
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Switzerland and most other continental European countries in fact have no statistics about who was born where as this is completely irrelevant. | | | | | Please, enough with the stats. How about an opinion?
I'm sure you only pretend to be dense to wind me up... | Quote: | |  | | | the share of foreigners in London or Manchester or Birmingham for sure IS higher, but if you look at the United Kingdom in general you realize that it nationwide is much lower. Look at cities like Exeter, Plymouth, Weymouth, Bath, Bristol, Newcastle, Brighton etc, and you see a fairly low share of foreigners. Of course it is. In Opfikon-Glattbrugg, the foreigners make up 42% of the population. And that figure does NOT include all former foreigners who got Swiss citizenship. | | | | | Who the f*çk goes about counting 'foreigners'? Is that why I get stared at?
Honestly, you'd think there was no such thing as Europe
Perhaps we should all f*çk off back to where we came from?
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11.03.2010, 08:51
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | In Canada, foreign-born doesn't mean you're considered a foreigner. Although we know it's quite the opposite in CH.
Also in CH, there are many expats who are temporary denizens. Whereas in Canada, most foreigners are landed-immigrants who plan to stay.
Further, many foreigners in CH are from Germany and other neighbour countries.
So these stats need to be taken with a lot of consideration of how you interpret them. | | | | | While many immigrants in Australia are Brits and Irish, who just changed to one of the British dominions "nearby" | 
11.03.2010, 08:58
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | In Canada, foreign-born doesn't mean you're considered a foreigner. Although we know it's quite the opposite in CH. | | | | | In Canada it's only the native Indians who are not foreigners. Likewise when the quota of non-Swiss reaches around 80% here, we will declare ourselves 'not foreign' and at the same time consign the Swiss to reservations and let them sell us beads and have photos taken with us...
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11.03.2010, 09:11
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | In Canada it's only the native Indians who are not foreigners. Likewise when the quota of non-Swiss reaches around 80% here, we will declare ourselves 'not foreign' and at the same time consign the Swiss to reservations and let them sell us beads and have photos taken with us... | | | | | we can sell them plague infected cat blankets then ?
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| | | Re: Bloody foreigners! | Quote: | |  | | | I would have expected the UK number to be higher but then they wouldn't have been able to count the illegals would they  | | | | | Here we go again with another "illegals" jab masquerading as satire. Honestly, is it really relevant to criminalised them? Don't let it get to ya. It's all in your head.
The world is one big place for all to wander. Tell that to the "aliens" whenever they swing by (if they exists).. Wonder if you'll refer to them as "illegal aliens".
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