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Large Hadron Collider / Higgs Boson (Collider thingy underground)

Well the LHC front has been quiet for a while now so it is time to stir things up again, bring it to the boil so to speak..

Quote:Kurz vor einem mit Spannung erwarteten Experiment im weltgrößten Teilchenbeschleuniger bei Genf hat das europäische Atomforschungszentrum CERN erneut Einwände von Kritikern zurückgewiesen: CERN-Generaldirektor Rolf-Dieter Heuer sagte, durch die ab Dienstag geplanten Protonenzusammenstöße bei bislang nie erreichten Energien könnten eventuell "mikroskopische Schwarze Löcher" entstehen; diese würden aber sofort wieder zerfallen." Unquote.

Meaning, they are boosting the gain on the thing to a higher level to get the first collisions and the general director Herr Rolf-Dieter Heuer has said that: "there is a possibility of creating mini black holes but they should/would evaporate immediately.
Of course providing that Hawkens is correct and they CAN evaporate.
The general feeling in German-CH is that it would not be too big a loss if French Geneva got spaghettified, (official wording when something falls into a black hole) so then, so long Geneva nice to have known ya!
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Old 29.03.2010, 16:39
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

black hole is an old story. The more interesting story was it stopped to work because some thingy particules from the future came to break it.... I posted an article about that on another forum.

And now, I'm not sure that a black hole would stop at the Geneva's border....
it's a nice place to put some dirty money.....

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Old 29.03.2010, 16:44
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

No more Röschtigraben, everyone's happy.
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Old 29.03.2010, 16:49
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

This almost sound like it was taken from Dr Cox's interview with Jonathan Ross on Saturday night.

Ross' casualness with liquid nitrogen was fantastic and I was on the edge of my seat waiting for him to crystalise one of his fingers.
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Old 29.03.2010, 17:45
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

Ive been trying to go on a tour there but apparently they are not letting people underground anymore. So basically you see a few computers and stuff. What if it sets of a chain reaction, or have I watched too many moofies?
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Old 29.03.2010, 18:39
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Ive been trying to go on a tour there but apparently they are not letting people underground anymore. So basically you see a few computers and stuff. What if it sets of a chain reaction, or have I watched too many moofies?
It wont. But if it does you will be dead so you will not care
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Old 29.03.2010, 19:05
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

They should've scheduled the restart of collisions for the 1st of April. Then if something went wrong there would be a nice explanation - April Fools' Day.
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Old 29.03.2010, 21:18
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

The gravitational effect of a black hole has the same strength as the matter that was converted into the black hole. So if a tiny particle from one atom is converted into a black hole then the gravitational effect is probably too tiny to measure. Also the relative distances between particles is enormous, think about waving a candle around in a Cathedral nave in an attempt to use the candle's gravity effect to pull a tile off the roof.
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... The general feeling in German-CH is that it would not be too big a loss if French Geneva got spaghettified, (official wording when something falls into a black hole) so then, so long Geneva nice to have known ya!
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Ah, go on... you know y'all love us really, and would miss us if we were gone! Besides, the image of a röstigraben full of spaghetti is too revolting to contemplate!

If anyone's interested, there's a webcast at http://webcast.cern.ch/lhcfirstphysics/ (a bunch of people in the control room, but quite fun to see what's going on as it happens), and lots of general information on the public page http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (but no pasta recipes).
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Old 30.03.2010, 09:25
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

This just in from Google earth...




..sorry couln't resist
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Old 30.03.2010, 09:47
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

If the LHC produces a mini-black hole, it's just producing artificially what's made by far higher energy collisions from cosmic rays.
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Old 30.03.2010, 09:51
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

Just for the pleasure to mention Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Capt. Jack (aka John Barrowman)

"Somewhere out there in that chaos of darkness and light, of science and protons, of gods and stars and death... somewhere there's an answer."
The Torchwood Institute was founded by Queen Victoria in 1879 to protect the British Empire against the threat of alien invasion. By 2008, all that remains of the organisation is a small team based in Cardiff. And now, following the tragic deaths of two of their colleagues, the remaining three - Captain Jack Harkness, Gwen Cooper and Ianto Jones - have to protect the human race against another unknown force from the darkness.
Martha Jones, ex-time traveller and now working as a doctor for a UN task force, has been called to CERN - the world's largest particle physics laboratory in Geneva - where they're about to activate the Large Hadron Collider. The LHC is a particle accelerator, which has been built deep underground in a 27 km tunnel under Switzerland and France. Once activated the Collider will fire beams of protons together recreating conditions a billionth of a second after the Big Bang - and potentially allowing the human race a greater insight into what the Universe is made of. But so much could go wrong - it could open a gateway to a parallel dimension, or create a black hole - and now voices from the past are calling out to people and scientists have started to disappear...
Where have the missing scientists gone? What is the secret of the glowing man? What is lurking in the underground tunnel? And do the dead ever really stay dead?
Lost Souls is a spin-off from the award-winning BBC Wales TV production Torchwood. It stars John Barrowman, Freema Agyeman, Eve Myles, Gareth David-Lloyd, Lucy Montgomery (of Titty Bang Bang) and Stephen Critchlow.

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Old 30.03.2010, 10:00
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

Where, where, where can I find that?
Me wannnawannawanna.
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Old 30.03.2010, 10:37
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

it's reserved for barrowman/torchwood/doctor who fans and you need to show your Torchwood ID Card.....

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Old 30.03.2010, 10:42
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I have my secret Dr. Who decoder ring and secret greeting if that helps.
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Old 30.03.2010, 10:49
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So I guess you can decode some secret websites to find it

Or perhaps I still have the record I made from the Beeb. I need to seek...
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Old 30.03.2010, 18:43
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

Hey Bertrand, is Geneva still there?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/sc...llider.html?hp

EDIT: I'd hate to find out my work permit was approved, only to find out that a bunch of scientists ruined it for me.....
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Old 30.03.2010, 18:48
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Re: LHC again (Collider thingy underground)

Not the most exciting webcam in the world, but of some interest to scientific types, one presumes: Here.
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Old 30.03.2010, 18:57
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Not the most exciting webcam in the world, but of some interest to scientific types, one presumes: Here.
At least they got video - where does the edge of the crater end?
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Old 30.03.2010, 19:17
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Hey Bertrand, is Geneva still there?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/sc...llider.html?hp
Still there.... but in a parallel universe...

Cool, Rose Tyler is here......

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