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Old 13.07.2010, 11:37
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

It seems to me that it is all getting a bit blown out of proportion.

The US had allowed him a plea bargain and given him a 90-day supervision arrest - not that serious a punishment if they felt he was genuinely a predatory paedophile methinks.

He had 48 days of this order left to serve (he has subsequently 'served' longer under house arrest in CH) from a conviction 30 years ago...let it go, seriously. If the US cannot say how long they wish to jail him for on his return, why should Switzerland give him up?
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Old 13.07.2010, 11:39
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He certainly should have gotten more time, a lot more time, but that's the deal the L.A. prosecutors made. Legally, they can't turn around and say "Yes, that was the original sentence, but we were going to reneg on that, lie to his lawyers and him, and send him away for more time!" in their extradition request.
IMHO they would most certainly have done this. He would expect to be made an example of, as someone who can't evade the courts decisions.
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Old 13.07.2010, 11:44
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

Agreed, LA wanted to make an example of this now, and maybe get some of his money instead of serving time. That's my opinion.

The Swiss got 4.5 million CHF bail. Nice.

Ok, so he gets it back gotcha.

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Old 13.07.2010, 11:48
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Agreed, LA wanted to make an example of this now, and maybe get some of his money instead of serving time. That's my opinion.

The Swiss got 4.5 million CHF bail. Nice.

you know he gets the bail money back?
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Agreed, LA wanted to make an example of this now, and maybe get some of his money instead of serving time. That's my opinion.

The Swiss got 4.5 million CHF bail. Nice.
I don't think he ever jumped bail in Switzerland did he? In which case, they have to give him the money back
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And knowing that they probably gave it to UBS to invest in the meantime, the government will surely end up a few hundred thousand in the red when all is said and done.
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Old 13.07.2010, 12:20
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I understand the victim's desire for peace, but as a society, we have the obligation to protect people from predators. Since he already admitted the crime, he needs to serve his sentence, and the victim can be left in peace. If he is such a great man and artist, he would understand the importance of having to pay for his mistakes (and I wouldn't call avoiding the USA adequate punishment for drugging and raping a child), especially as a father to a young woman. What message is he sending her? It's a little twisted, IMHO.
I think any human being should be able to appreciate that, regardless of his/her achievements. that he has a daughter and condone the media attention on his victim after so long makes me queasy.

In the context of crime and punishment, I appreciate the outrage at corporal punishment (another thread), but not the sympathy for Polanski, esp by the same people. my 2 cents.
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Old 13.07.2010, 12:24
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

It's a damn shame. Polanski's a great director, but surviving the Holocaust and making Chinatown should not mean getting a "get out of jail free" card for raping an underage girl. I'm sick of hearing other Hollywood celebrities apologize for him when Polanski himself has NEVER publicly shown remorse or admitted that what he did was wrong.
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Old 13.07.2010, 12:26
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

ah ha, bail is just a placement deposit I didn't know
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It seems to me that it is all getting a bit blown out of proportion.

The US had allowed him a plea bargain and given him a 90-day supervision arrest - not that serious a punishment if they felt he was genuinely a predatory paedophile methinks.

He had 48 days of this order left to serve (he has subsequently 'served' longer under house arrest in CH) from a conviction 30 years ago...let it go, seriously. If the US cannot say how long they wish to jail him for on his return, why should Switzerland give him up?
So according to you, only "predatory paedophiles" should be locked up, not great directors who only committed the crime once?
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:01
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I'm sick of hearing other Hollywood celebrities apologize for him when Polanski himself has NEVER publicly shown remorse or admitted that what he did was wrong.
Hollywood celebrities have nearly all got self-inflated opinions of themselves. I doubt any of them have any ounce of humility, or an opinion based on fact.
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:08
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

I'm sick of Hollywood celebrities.... period.
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:15
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

Quotes from an interview Polanski gave:-

Roman Polanski admitted his crime before he ran away and, for years afterwards, he boasted from exile that every man wanted to do what he did. He chuckled to one interviewer in 1979: "If I had killed somebody, it wouldn't have had.

"But... , you see... and the young girls. Judges want to f*** young girls. Juries want to f*** young girls. Everyone wants to f*** young girls!" so much appeal to the press, you see?

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Sounds like a nice guy to me. Castration without anasthetic would be too good for this guy.
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:16
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I doubt any of them have any ounce of humility, or an opinion based on fact.
Much like posters on an online forum, in fact...

It's a shame that he gets off on such a technicality, especially the way the LA prosecutor presents his case as waterproof to the local media over there...tsts
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:18
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Much like posters on an online forum, in fact...

It's a shame that he gets off on such a technicality, especially the way the LA prosecutor presents his case as waterproof to the local media over there...tsts
AFAIK It's the fault of the US prosecutors, not providing the Swiss the information that was requested. I doubt the US will give up, but they may find it hard as I doubt that the French will issue a warrant since he's been living there for so long.
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:22
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AFAIK It's the fault of the US prosecutors, not providing the Swiss the information that was requested. I doubt the US will give up, but they may find it hard as I doubt that the French will issue a warrant since he's been living there for so long.
Agreed.. as for the French, I can guarantee you that they will not extradite him - he has a French passport. The US can not give up now, less than ever, otherwise this will seem like a farce (ha!)
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Old 13.07.2010, 13:24
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Re: Bye Bye Roman (Update: Polanski will not be extradited)

Since when has the US done anything internationally that hasn't been a farce?
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Since when has the US done anything internationally that hasn't been a farce?
Well, this isn't the Russian Forum, so they haven't done too badly, have they?
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This isn't the russian forum?
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So according to you, only "predatory paedophiles" should be locked up, not great directors who only committed the crime once?
That he has been convicted of ... he was living with Natashia Kinski when she was 14 ...

One feels that there was a trend here ..
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