Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Swiss politics/news
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 20.11.2010, 19:55
Tilia's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zug
Posts: 2,046
Groaned at 58 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 1,379 Times in 698 Posts
Tilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

Yes, it seems the Pope does know about it.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 20.11.2010, 20:54
slammer's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South of the Bodensee
Posts: 1,544
Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,489 Times in 646 Posts
slammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

Still trying to get my head around the image of a vending machine in the vatican loo.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 20.11.2010, 20:55
slammer's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South of the Bodensee
Posts: 1,544
Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,489 Times in 646 Posts
slammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

Maybe something with trumpet blowing cherubim to the left and right of the slot.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 21.11.2010, 00:17
Joey82's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Belgium, formerly Frick AG
Posts: 1,842
Groaned at 10 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 1,414 Times in 795 Posts
Joey82 has a reputation beyond reputeJoey82 has a reputation beyond reputeJoey82 has a reputation beyond reputeJoey82 has a reputation beyond reputeJoey82 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

Quote:
View Post
Great !They finally seen the light,better late then never .BTW doe`s the Pope knows about this
He does ( here is the English version)

So its a bit like Sesame street, Cookie monster can't eat cookies all the time as its a " sometime " food.. Pope agrees "sometimes " with condoms , in exceptional cases

Pope condones condom use in exceptional cases

Pope Benedict XVI has said the use of condoms is acceptable in exceptional circumstances, according to a new book.
He said condoms could reduce the risk of HIV infection, such as for a male prostitute, in a series of interviews given to a German journalist.
But he said a more humane attitude to sexuality, and not condom use, was the proper way to combat HIV infection.
The comments were made in a new book, which the Vatican newspaper ran excerpts of in its Saturday edition.
The Church's hardline stance over contraception has led to the Vatican being heavily criticised for its position in the context of the Aids crisis.
Aids crisis
The book - Light of the World: The Pope, the Church and the Signs of the Times - is based on a series of interview the Pope gave the German Catholic journalist, Peter Seewald, earlier this year.
When asked whether the Catholic Church was not opposed in principle to the use of condoms, the Pope replied: "She of course does not regard it as a real or moral solution, but, in this or that case, there can be nonetheless, in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way, of living sexuality."
"If the intention [of condom use] is to prevent transmission of HIV, rather than prevent contraception, moral theologians would say that was of a different moral order”
The Pope gives the example of the use of condoms by male prostitutes as "a first step towards moralisation", even though condoms are "not really the way to deal with the evil of HIV infection".
He says that the "sheer fixation on the condom implies a banalisation of sexuality" where sexuality is no longer an expression of love, "but only a sort of drug that people administer to themselves".
Catholic commentator Austen Ivereigh said that although this was the first time the Pope had voiced such an opinion, it was in line with what Catholic moral theologians have been saying for many years.
"The Church's teaching on contraception predates the discovery of Aids," Mr Ivereigh told the BBC news website.
"The prevalence of HIV raised the question of whether condoms could be used to prevent the transmission of the virus.
"If the intention is to prevent transmission of the virus, rather than prevent contraception, moral theologians would say that was of a different moral order."
Light of the World is to be published in English by the Catholic Truth Society on Tuesday.
On a visit to Cameroon last year, the Pope said the use of condoms could endanger public health and increase the problem of HIV/Aids, rather than help to contain the virus. This drew criticism from several EU states.
Campaigners say condoms are one of the few methods proven to stop the spread of HIV.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 21.11.2010, 13:31
zymogen's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: N/D
Posts: 797
Groaned at 7 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 865 Times in 368 Posts
zymogen has a reputation beyond reputezymogen has a reputation beyond reputezymogen has a reputation beyond reputezymogen has a reputation beyond reputezymogen has a reputation beyond reputezymogen has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

The world is moving fast and changing a lot but it's unbelievable how much the catholic church (officials) are lagging behind reality. I want to yell 'WAKE UP!' at them.

He probably washed his mouth with soap after saying 'prostitute'.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 21.11.2010, 13:45
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: zürich
Posts: 2,752
Groaned at 70 Times in 52 Posts
Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,019 Posts
i-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Catholics handing out condoms in Lucerne

Yes, he does,



Quote:
View Post
The lord moves in mysterious ways.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Handing back /Final cleaning of an apartment in Zurich Zurich8032 Housing in general 4 19.08.2010 11:16
Condoms 'too big' allegedly summerrain General off-topic 18 27.05.2010 20:49
Pre-teens get small condoms 22 yards Daily life 98 04.03.2010 09:59
Pope stands firm against condoms in... Africa Russkov International affairs/politics 6 18.03.2009 15:41
Where to buy condoms? Tweener General off-topic 78 31.03.2008 14:01


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:10.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0