The one who's refusing to make me a cup of tea.

Can't be me, I made him a cup of tea only yesterday morning.

(Do you want to smite him for his insolence or shall I? )

the funny thing about all this is that even though the guy obviously had some custody issues himself, generally a father in feminist Sweden would have significantly better chances to have access to his children after the divorce than in Switzerland. It's very common to keep joint custody and shared parenting arrangements after the divorce. And out of kids living with single parents in Sweden, more than 20% are living with single dads - I don't have the numbers about CH but in more 'traditional' countries, this number is usually less than 1%.

So really I don't understand what exactly he wants. To 'return things to normal'? the normal, I assume, being that the mother takes care of home and kids and the father works - and he really thinks that in case of divorce, courts would be more willing to favour the full-time working father over full-time stay at home mother?

Do you happen to work in education or some other female domain?

At least, you admit that there ARE female domains. If you speak about specific domains that can be defined as male domains, please put this piece of information in your message. Then it makes a lot of sense to talk about glass sealing. Otherwise, generalizations just stay what they are: generalizations.

Another food for thoughts: What about those who say that there are just not that many female candidates for responsibility posts in the service industry, so that it is by best will not possible to have equal numbers. The part of responsability the women have in that matter is not zero: if there are no or few women to candidate, no wonder the result is male domination after the last round of interview. That comes ON TOP OF glass sealing, as I do not denie its existance in some sectors. I am not blind.

EDIT: it is still really bad thinking to oppose father's rights and feminism. No doubts about it.

Of course there are.

Coincidentally, they also happen to be the low paid ones - compared to what you would get paid in male domains with an equal level of education.


E.g. careers in the medical field - despite the higher percentage of female medical students, how many will become a medical superintendent (Chefarzt) or a PD?
Banking, government, law etc.

Well, that's excellent news! I try not to make up my mind based on "beliefs". But it's true that ones experience shapes our understanding of the world.

I'm happy to be proven wrong on this. I found that in Eastern Europe & Southern Europe have very high % of women judges with Northern Europe training behind, with UK and Ireland in the 20s% Germany low 30s%. Switzerland is not listed. This is from 2006. I would be nice to see news statistics.

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Great. Of course there is room for "nuances" (although I'm not sure what you mean by that).

Thank you Ulla! This is exactly my point which you've made much better than I could have.

But male in female domains are paid the same as females. No unequality there.

Talk to the banks and the industry, and I will be applauding you and send you flowers for your wise words.
And don't forget to encourage your female friends to send their CVs for high shot jobs. Recruters can only take what they get. Once that is secured, then yes, I sing with you the complaint of the glass sealing and unequality blues. I saw examples of it in an English bank in Geneva that I can not name here. I also saw a male glass sealing in education in Scandinavia, where female recruters were looking for females even if there was already a large majority of females in the team. But MEA CULPA, this experience is widely irrelevant when discussing Switzerland. I admit.

As long as we are able to keep in mind that the question is asked differently depending of the domain one thinks about, I am happy with not only your messages but the others as well.

No matter what field, in the area of management, women can and do outperform men. They have a natural skill in the use of soft power, and when required, can be the most terrifying in their use of hard power. In my experience, they can get more things done than men. I work in an industry that is male doinated, but at the upper levels of corporate management, there are some very effective female managers. I think we are seeing this more and more of this even here in Switzerland.

Case in point, Switzerland's Bundesrat is now predominantly female.

A piece of advise for those working with women executive managers, never cross them.

I'll second that.

No doubt this is a wise advise. However...
A manager that can not stand opposition is in my eyes not that good a manager in the first place. Male or female.

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Case in point, Switzerland's Bundesrat is now predominantly female.

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And on top of it they all Look better then Margaret Thacher Ignore the "on top of it" Please

Note:Here in Ontario Canada. A mother of two little girl,just got convicted of murdering her children (by grounding them in the bath tub) Reasons :She wanned to punishing her ex Now ask my about capital punishmentOn the otherhand don`t
http://www.canada.com/news/guilty+de...850/story.html

Managed to find my way to the story:
http://www.canada.com/news/guilty+de...850/story.html

Very disturbing, very frightening.