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Old 21.04.2011, 13:10
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

Any recommendations for cheapo garages around Baden, AG? I'll probably need to buy a cheap car in the following months, as my 1-year period of driving my RO-registered car is running out and I haven't found any exploitable loopholes , and the prices on autoscout24 aren't all that good. I'm looking for something like a golf mk2 or mk3 from the 90s
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

[QUOTE=dodgyken;1173934]Further update time:

"6 weeks into ownership and I'm still undecided on this one. There are moments when it proves a stonkingly good bargain, and others - specifically when the car is working very hard - when the temperature rises and I swear it could get expensive."



My friends old Rover 214 had the same problem and I did the same as you: IE Change the thermo and temp sender. The problem persisted so I did more checks. I found the radiator had rotted on the outside so all the aluminum fins between the radiator tubes had fallen to peices and most were missing. After a rad change, the car went on flawlessly for another 70K miles. (At which point my friend found out he 'forgot' to get the timing belt changed 2 years previously when I had warned him about it)

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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

my best cheap car was a Volvo 360. Cost the equivalent of chf 2000 at 170000km, got rid of it when it started leaking at 320000km. I was lucky in a sence that the previous owner did a complete engine and gearbox overhaul at 165000km but then got a promotion and a brand new company car...
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

So how is your GCCE project going?

I love to read your topics like the BMW 525 one.

I'm thinking into doing something similar now that I have a weekend car for distant travels and mountain hops (RAV4) I'm thinking it could be handy to get some large wagon or limusine 20-25 years old to pull some weight when needed...As I have insurance and plates it will cost me less shared... Not that the 160 bhp on the RAV won't suffice!
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So how is your GCCE project going?

I love to read your topics like the BMW 525 one.

I'm thinking into doing something similar now that I have a weekend car for distant travels and mountain hops (RAV4) I'm thinking it could be handy to get some large wagon or limusine 20-25 years old to pull some weight when needed...As I have insurance and plates it will cost me less shared... Not that the 160 bhp on the RAV won't suffice!
Sorry - completely missed this post - I'll update you tomorrow with some interesting news on the fall and rise of Cheap Car motoring.
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

This Ford Focus 2.0i Kombi looks very good value, if anyone is interested,

12 years old, 43'500 km, 3 months guarantee, new MFK, Silver / Black, alloy wheels, 8 tyres, towbar, air con,

http://www.autoscout24.ch/Search/Det...2&vehid=306651
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This Ford Focus 2.0i Kombi looks very good value, if anyone is interested,

12 years old, 43'500 km, 3 months guarantee, new MFK, Silver / Black, alloy wheels, 8 tyres, towbar, air con,

http://www.autoscout24.ch/Search/Det...2&vehid=306651
I'd prefer a higher milage. With only 43k km it probably never drove long distances and may even be on its first tyres.
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Old 17.02.2012, 09:04
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

So, as promised - an update.

Throughout 2011 the car got plenty of abuse - throwing in the big sacks of garden rubbish (5 at a time) and shifting them down to the Gewerbe. All well and good - at least it didn't get to overheat. But things weren't right.

When I bought the car the revs would dip alarmingly has you pulled up at the lights and dipped the clutch - a little blip of the throttle would sort it out. Over time I realised that the car wouldn't rev about 5000rpm - which if I was was being mechanically sympathetic wouldn't be an issue. However the 2.2 litre engine is the non-blown version of the engine that appeared in th legendary Audi Quattro - and should be happy to rev round to the redline at 6700rpm.

Last May I'd even spoke to a guy in the UK who recommended that the car simply had the wrong rotor-arm - I should replace it with the correct one and everything would be OK. I ordered the part - but never got round to replacing it.

Anyway, back to the taking the garden fefuge to the Gewerbe. Throughout the year the car was becoming less reliable when cold - it would always start - but then would struggle to re-start when cold. Add to that a mis-fire under 2000rpm when cold - and the revs dying completely when cold once the clutch was dipped - and the car was becoming a liability. I was close to trying to sell it on EF

It got so bad that I lined up a Merc estate as a replacement.

Then, about 6 weeks ago I thought I'd just get on and fit the new rotor arm. It would sort out the rev limit problem - and as the rotor arm is part of the ignition circuit it might help with the misfire.

It didn't take long to fix - once I'd got the headtorch on - and figured out the technique for opening the distributor. The good news was the new rotor arm was different to the old one.

However the car was a little slow to start - but once it did it settled into a smooth idle. All good so far. So I closed the bonnet, slipped the car into first and headed out for a test drive. As I pulled up to the end of the road the revs didn't die. Next junction the same.

Hmmm - so I pulled over - 400m from home - close enough to walk back if needed. I turned the engine off. And turned it back on again - and it fired into life without hesitation.

I was feeling quite happy as I continued on the test drive. Each junction I was waiting for the revs to drop - and need a blip of throttle to sort it out. But nothing.

And then I noticed the third problem had gone - there was no misfire under 2000rpm. The engine was cold - it should be misfiring - hesitating - generally being a pain in the arse. But it wasn't. It was pulling cleanly throughout.

Once I checked the tyre pressures - and the car restarted without a hitch I went searching for a decent test road - and once I found it - I knocked the car down into second, braced myself and buried the throttle. The revs rising, 4000, 4500, 5000, 5500, 6000, 6500 - bloody hell - this thing can shift. The engine was always meant to be quick through the last 2000rpm - and boy does it fly. 1140kg isn't a lot to shift - and with the engine now pulling perfectly it really does make good progress.

I hooned about for 15mins giving the car a lot of stick - pushing it - and you know what - the temperature hardly moved.

1 fix (which was 4chf and 7chf postage - which, in case you're wondering, is cheaper than the 11EUR I found elsewhere) sorted out 6 problems (Overheating, misfire, low peak revs, cold misfire, rev-dipping, cold restarting).

The only problem remaining is that the stereo has stopped working - and I'm not quite sure whether it lies in the car or the head unit itself. I changed the fuse in the car and stereo last night - but still not working.

It now looks like the Passat will tackle another of year of work - and cover another 3000km in 12 months!!
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Old 02.04.2012, 11:22
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

All that talk of running it for another 12 months! Who was I kidding?!?!

12 months (almost to the day) on from buying the Passat - the car has gone. Taken as part-exchange towards a far newer workhorse.

So why sell?

The Passat never really won me over. Although it never actually overheated - it did get warm - with the loud fan kicking in. It was better after the Feb fix - but never perfect. The radio had also packed up.

But the biggest problem was that I'd never bonded with the car. All the old cars I have owned have achieved something. My old 740 bought me to Switzerland. The E280 took me to the UK. The 760 was the perfect London barge - and lives on in that role with a friend to this day. The 525 took us to Morocco - and back - clocking 9000km in 5 weeks. But the Passat never had a chance to prove itself. Yes it towed our stuff from one flat to another - but it never really had to be pushed.

So on Saturday I said goodbye to it. And after sitting it on the motorway for 2 hours it wasn't a sad goodbye. It was hot (no air-con), noisy, with no radio and a ride that should be soft but was just rubbish.

It was spacious in the boot - and light (1140kg + 136ps = fun). So not all bad.

The replacement is 21 years newer - a 2007 Saab 9-3 Sportcombi. Hardly bangeronomics. Its first task is driving to the UK on Thursday!!
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Old 02.04.2012, 14:11
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The replacement is 21 years newer - a 2007 Saab 9-3 Sportcombi. Hardly bangeronomics. Its first task is driving to the UK on Thursday!!
Saabs don't last like old Volvos do. My '91 900 SPG went from tip top to falling apart in its 5th or 6th year. May the force be with you.

I just managed to get a spotless 2001 V70 T5 @ 110k miles, with just about every option ever offered for that model for about $6k. Used Volvos are almost always a reliable option since Volvo owners are a loyal lot and tend to take great pride in getting 300k miles out of them before retiring them. I still get wistful over my '84 240 GLT that made it to 320k miles before being sent to the parts guy.
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Further update time:

"6 weeks into ownership and I'm still undecided on this one. There are moments when it proves a stonkingly good bargain, and others - specifically when the car is working very hard - when the temperature rises and I swear it could get expensive."



My friends old Rover 214 had the same problem and I did the same as you: IE Change the thermo and temp sender. The problem persisted so I did more checks. I found the radiator had rotted on the outside so all the aluminum fins between the radiator tubes had fallen to peices and most were missing. After a rad change, the car went on flawlessly for another 70K miles. (At which point my friend found out he 'forgot' to get the timing belt changed 2 years previously when I had warned him about it)

No expert but maybe this could be your problem?
This problem is not restricted to cars - i had the same issue with a BMW K1200S. When new, it ran slightly hot in traffic. As it aged, it got hotter sooner and sooner on the same journey. Turns out the salt on the winter roads had corroded the fine fins off the radiator, massively reducing its surface area. Also, grit and dirt clogged the remaining fins, which prevented air passing through the radiator.

I sold it before replacing the radiator...it was a 600 quid job!
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

Well at least you are buying solid road cars. I had a flight of fancy when I was 20 to buy a '76 MG Midget (red!) for $1900. The car flung parts over any bumpy road I travelled on. Became so expensive I bought myself a Haynes manual - read up and changed the fuel pump, adjusted the carburetor... All by myself -- and I'm a girl!

Needless to say, went thru 3 Saabs and loved them all (one saved my life in a 6 roll over accident) and now have a light blue Fiat 500 and love it!
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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

I once bought a Fiat Cinqucenco (however you spell it) for £500.

I ragged the hell out of it until it was on its last legs, then sold the number plate for £4500 (it was M5000CC or something similar) and sold the car back to the same garage i bought it from for a fiver.

WIN.

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Re: The Great Cheap Car Experiment No.5

Maybe next time you'll even take it one step further and purchase one of these.
Fantastic power to weight ratio, hours of fun.
And its a nice colour!
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Saabs don't last like old Volvos do. My '91 900 SPG went from tip top to falling apart in its 5th or 6th year. May the force be with you.

I just managed to get a spotless 2001 V70 T5 @ 110k miles, with just about every option ever offered for that model for about $6k. Used Volvos are almost always a reliable option
Stand by for following mandatory expenses:

TCM change: 1'500 CHF
Front suspension: ca 3'000 CHF (if struts aren't changed too).
Radiator: ca 1'200 CHF
If you have the auto trans: new gearbox starting CHF 7'000

Volvo for life... indeed.
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