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Old 23.05.2011, 16:00
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I looked at buying a car in Italy a while ago because the cost differential was significant. In the end, I was put off the process because it seems it's virtually impossible to get the paperwork sorted out if you're a non-resident. Everything I read seemed to imply that a residence permit was required in order to complete the paperwork.

Apparently, I gave up too easily. It turns out you can do it, although there is quite a lot of bureaucracy to deal with and hoops to jump through.

This website outlines (very well!) the process of buying a car for export:

http://www.maserati-indy.co.uk/alfieri05.htm
Thanks!
But that process ignore the "expediter thing" for something above 600euros.
I'm trying to google that but not many luck so far.

Yeah German cars... can't be bothered! for the model i'm looking for it's already 2000euros more than similar in italy, but 2000euros less than Switzerland... (approx).

So from here to Italy it's 4000euros difference!!

Ma que buenissimo!
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Old 23.05.2011, 16:05
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You need the expediter to prepare the paperwork to pass through customs for anything over EUR 600.

Also, I didn't drive through, I had it on a trailer, and it was not, nor had ever been registered, so no PRA stuff for me.

Tom
I think your experience was old and is now outdated (no offense intended)-

I found that:

"Goods worth more than 600 euro
were immediately trapped in a web of
paperwork, red tape and import taxes
..."

Source:
http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/move/35/en.pdf


Although yes Switerland is not in Europe but it talks about "Schengen" later on... Maybe that was old?

Or it's strange it's not stated on the other links given on how to export out of italy...
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Old 30.05.2011, 12:13
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You need the expediter to prepare the paperwork to pass through customs for anything over EUR 600.

Also, I didn't drive through, I had it on a trailer, and it was not, nor had ever been registered, so no PRA stuff for me.

Tom
Hi again,
I managed to talk with customs and you are right!

For any vehicle (germany, italy, wherever) one needs to go to a "transitaire", someone who will prepare the paperwork for customs.
We can't do it on our own it has to be "official".

They said they will send the person on the nearest city where some people do that job, it all can be done on the same day.

paperworks...
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I think your experience was old and is now outdated (no offense intended)-
Old? I don't think that anything has changed in the past four years.

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"Goods worth more than 600 euro
were immediately trapped in a web of
paperwork, red tape and import taxes
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http://ec.europa.eu/publications/booklets/move/35/en.pdf
That's only about inter-EU stuff, Switzerland is not in the EU.

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Old? I don't think that anything has changed in the past four years.

That's only about inter-EU stuff, Switzerland is not in the EU.

Tom
Yes, yes. As I said they mentionned schengen (Switzerland is part of it)-
But as per the customs you are right!
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Re: Importing car from Italy

I agree don't buy in Italy. As much as I like charisma and liveliness of Italian folks but they beat the living crap out of every car the drive. If it is not for a chassis, the engine and gearbox will be buggered up. Like PG said, I also played spot-the-impeccable-car game in IT and it's like finding a needle in a haystack. I have been there, done that. Our car was gently bumped in Genoa last year by Merc woman driver. Tiny paint work on bumper but still it makes you thinking about the driving style there. Avoid it by all means!

I see Germany as the best possible place to buy a vehicle and I wouldn't buy cars from Poland as they most likely are imports from DE and CH.
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The problem in Italy is that if you have more than EUR 600 worth of stuff, you MUST have the paperwork done by an expediter, AND go through the commercial customs (i.e. with all the trucks). Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.

Tom
OK, I add the final information about that.

You are 100% right.

One needs to use an "expediter" and go through the commercial customs to export/import a vehicle to Switzerland.

The only difference between germany and italy is that in Germany the dealer can act as the expediter (=exporter). As a result they will go with you to the "commercial customs" (ie with all the trucks).


That's what I did not understand as per my "document importing car from Germany": in my document it just said the "dealer" goes there and there-
But it's definitely acting as an "exporter" (documents say so and customs asked for it).


If you have no "exporter" the customs will redirect you to a professional exporter which you will have to pay.




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Re: Importing car from Italy

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The process to import car from Italy is different than Germany:


In Italy a vehicle accompanied by two documents:
"CARTA DI Circolazione" equivalent of the gray card (old model: TARGA) issued by the office of registrations of the "Civil Motorizzazione. This service performs the technical approvals and issue the "carta di circolazione" and plates (Targher) for Italian.

"Certificato di Estate": It is issued by the PRA (Pubblico Registro Automobilistico) usually located in the offices of Italian Automobile Club.

To export an Italian vehicle, the two documents should, in principle, pass through the hands of PRA: Pubblico Registro Automobilistico. They will be stamped with an indication for termination of service for export to another EU country, "Annotta cessazione della circulazione per esportazione it DD / MM / YYYY. Radiation and the establishment of a temporary transit plate costs about 100 euros with liability insurance. The plates will be issued in the original PRA. The temporary plate is stiff cardboard that sticks on the rear window, it is valid for 5 days.

The French administration does not require that the vehicle is removed from circulation in Italy, but the omission of this step involves the responsibility of the former owner. It can be done once the vehicle registered in France. It must then return the plates and Italian papers to his former owner who will travel to Italy for PRA ua cancel its registration.


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http://translate.google.com/translat...-en-italie.htm



But for the vat back it's still unclear.
It's for "export out of Europe" so it's clear we don't have to pay VAT. But it seems car dealers don't know/ Don't bother.

Hi,

Really helpful info! Thanks.

However I still have some doubts about some details:

In order to make the temporary license plate in italy, do I need to be a resident or give an italian address?

Also, when you say the temporary license plate issue by the PRA have "liability insurance", do you mean that I can circulate with those plates installed without any additional insurance?

Many thanks!
Jose
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Old 03.09.2012, 18:02
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Re: Importing car from Italy

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Hi,

Really helpful info! Thanks.

However I still have some doubts about some details:

In order to make the temporary license plate in italy, do I need to be a resident or give an italian address?

Also, when you say the temporary license plate issue by the PRA have "liability insurance", do you mean that I can circulate with those plates installed without any additional insurance?

Many thanks!
Jose
Hm No ideas, sorry.
I did not buy a car from Italy at the end .

For Germany: Temporary plates are on sale + insurance for a few days.
If I remember it's something like 90euros for a few days/week.

It must be the same in Europe so in Italy...


Caution: it's full of processes and you'll be stuck if your temporary plates are not valid in Switzerland, until the Swiss "service automobile" gives you an appointment to get the car registered... (can be 2 months!!!)

So review your whole process and check if it's really worthy...
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Re: Importing car from Italy

Ok, Thx anyway.

Today I went to a motorizzazione and they told me it is possible to do the cardboard plate as a foreigner. However, I has no insurance and he couldn't tell me if it was valid in EU or Switzerland, even though they told me they had done it for cars going to Macedonia, Slovenia, Albania, etc...

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Re: Importing car from Italy

I have a similar problem. I have a camper that I bought in Italy and I have just moved back to the UK. I am in the process of registering it and someone told me that I will have to insure it on a chassis number for 2 months ($380), do an MOT and tax it £(100) and then they will more than likely ask to have it checked over to gain a certificate of conformity (£380).

I am an Italian resident. What is involved in keeping it registered in Italy and driving in the UK on a permanent basis?

Anyone in a similar situation?
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surely you're no longer an Italian resident as you're now a UK resident?

does the camper not have an EU CoC already? What make is it?
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Re: Importing car from Italy

Not sure what an EU CoC is...

the residency thing is kind of the question. I have a UK passport but I lived in Italy for years so I have residency there. I intend to return often to Italy with the van. I was wondering about the logistics of keeping the car registered in Italy but viewing insurance and tax issues as looooong vacations in England.
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Re: Importing car from Italy

The camper is a Volkswagon California 1998.
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Not sure what an EU CoC is...

the residency thing is kind of the question. I have a UK passport but I lived in Italy for years so I have residency there. I intend to return often to Italy with the van. I was wondering about the logistics of keeping the car registered in Italy but viewing insurance and tax issues as looooong vacations in England.
so you still have one of these?

http://prado.consilium.europa.eu/en/...ycategory.html

EU CoC is Certificate of Conformity. You bought the car in the EU so it must have one.
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I would stick to Germany and Belgium, almost all the dealers I have contacted seem to have experience with export sales. I've also seen cheap cars in Italy, and lots in Poland. The only thing that puts me off Eastern Europe is the language barrier.
I'd be careful with cars from Poland (I am Polish ) most of them have accident history and are clocked unfortunately, so buying a second had in PL can be very risky.
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Re: Importing car from Italy

Ok so it very much looks like Im going to be picking up a bike from Italy in a week or so - dealer only speaks Italian though but never mind....

First of all thanks very much to st2lemans - without whose reassurance I would have already given up but this seems to be the entire process :

1. Bike Registration document -Libretto - have a scan of that from the dealer this morning - if I would decide to literally drive the bike across the border Id need that to arrange insurance from here.

2. Statement of sale from the seller - Dichiarazione di Vendita

3. Certificate of Conformity - Certificato di Conformita

4. Expediter work at the border - appears that you can have the Italian side do both sides of the work

5. Pay Swiss VAT.

6. Sort out MFK test with STVA locally.

Could someone please confirm thats the entire list ?? Thanks everyone and especially St2lemans!
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Re: Importing car from Italy

Hello there... do I need the Certificate of Conformity at the border for import or only at the strassenverkehrsamt following import ? Thanks
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Hello there... do I need the Certificate of Conformity at the border for import or only at the strassenverkehrsamt following import ? Thanks
If I remembered correctly they asked for it at the border for import.
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