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What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

I was thinking to buy a new car maybe in the next year or two, and would really like to get a hybrid car (I like the concept and energy efficiency), but as far as I know the selection is (for some reason) pretty limited, or at least I don't see alot of car manufacturers advertising them.

Does anyone know what hybrid cars are available in CH? I know the Toyota Prius is probably the most popular/affordable right now, but I'm not too keen on it (and now after watching "The Other Guys" last week, I just can't buy a Prius ). I know Lexus makes a hybrid SUV, but at something like 90k CHF that's out of my league (I'm an engineer, not a banker ) I'm looking more in the 30-40k CHF range.

Can anyone reccomend anything? Or has anyone heard of any new hybrid cars planned to be released int he next few years?
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Old 21.06.2011, 13:18
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I was thinking to buy a new car maybe in the next year or two, and would really like to get a hybrid car (I like the concept and energy efficiency), but as far as I know the selection is (for some reason) pretty limited, or at least I don't see alot of car manufacturers advertising them.

Does anyone know what hybrid cars are available in CH? I know the Toyota Prius is probably the most popular/affordable right now, but I'm not too keen on it (and now after watching "The Other Guys" last week, I just can't buy a Prius ). I know Lexus makes a hybrid SUV, but at something like 90k CHF that's out of my league (I'm an engineer, not a banker ) I'm looking more in the 30-40k CHF range.

Can anyone reccomend anything? Or has anyone heard of any new hybrid cars planned to be released int he next few years?
honda do a load, eg the civic etc etc

but why??? a decent diesel beats any hybrid car on mpg, cost of ownership etc etc

and no one will think your a smug eco ill-informed bastard if you drive a diesel
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Old 21.06.2011, 13:28
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and no one will think your a smug eco ill-informed bastard if you drive a diesel
Does anyone make a diesel hybrid?

...oh, and I may be smug, ill-informed (and definitely a bastard), but I am by no means "eco", so watch it there buddy
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Old 21.06.2011, 20:07
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

I guess those elektro bicycles are techinally hybrids... Electrical engine / human engine.

Do they also have sort of a KERS system to store energy?

But, same question as BB2, why do you want a hybrid?

..and to add to the list
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

VW Touareg, Audi A6, Q5
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Old 21.06.2011, 20:26
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

I know a guy with a 300 bph (iirc) Porsche Cayenne hybrid. That thing moves...
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But, same question as BB2, why do you want a hybrid?
I like the concept of efficiency. When you hit the breaks it charges the battery to use the energy later. Non-hybrid cars waste this energy.

To change topic slightly, does anyone know if Ford Switzerland sells Mustangs? I saw one last week in a Coop parking lot and was digging it. But I don't see it on the ford.ch website anywhere

http://www.de.ford.ch/Personenwagen

...not hybrid nor very "eco", but it's badass-ness more than makes up for it
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Old 21.06.2011, 21:10
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I like the concept of efficiency. When you hit the breaks it charges the battery to use the energy later. Non-hybrid cars waste this energy.
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Not strictly true now a lot of normal cars have regenerative breaking.

For my 2 Rappen: Hybrids really are a waste of space, they have to mine the nickel for the extremely hazardous batteries, fly all the parts all over the globe for assembly and no one has really thought about how to scrap and recycle them in a efficient manner. Just my view but it seems to be a "jump onto the green bandwagon" for a lot of these manufacturers. As said above some of the new diesels are so super efficient compared to the hybrids, also I believe that the hybrids will be worthless as soon as the mass marketed H Fuel cell vehicles appear at the end of the year.

Now the Tesla, that's a different matter 'specially as they have the gearbox working properly now
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To change topic slightly, does anyone know if Ford Switzerland sells Mustangs? I saw one last week in a Coop parking lot and was digging it. But I don't see it on the ford.ch website anywhere
THese are readily available at many places. There is a good place in Wadenswil

: http://www.us-carconnection.ch

Happy drooling
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

tons of mustangs on autoscout. as far as the prius .and i really dislike the people driving them. always got to look mad or even make comments on my V8. prob still better f the environment after everything said and done......just buy any decent new car and emissions are sooooo low anyways
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

The market will have changed drastically in a year or two, when you are ready to buy. Who knows what will be available then?
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

If you can't decide between a Prius and a Mustang, you are ready for the BMW X Dybrid. It brings the best of both.
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Old 21.06.2011, 22:19
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THese are readily available at many places. There is a good place in Wadenswil

: http://www.us-carconnection.ch

Happy drooling
Oh hell yea...

http://www.us-carconnection.ch/neuwa...o_ss/index.php

...they're going back to the '69 style-type, nice. But 50k CHF for a Camaro? That's kinda steep, no? They're badass, I've had them before, but they aren't really that well made, you need to be pretty good with a wrench...
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Old 21.06.2011, 22:27
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

Hybrids - hmm lets start, heavy metals for all the batteries.. how on earth do you dispose of all those - ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh but good for the environment now. Crash a hybrid and beavers die simples

If you are in the least bit concerned about the environment and want an eco car buy an electric one, or a diesel or ffs a big petrol v12 it'll be recycled at the end. Although lets not talk about particulates.

Why do you want a hybrid? A car gets you from a to b, the car should last 10, 20 30 years (depending on the engine) if the car is involved in an accident and as far as insurance are concerned it's a write off - do they care about what is in the car?

No, it's too expensive to repair so buy a new one.........
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Old 22.06.2011, 00:20
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Does anyone know what hybrid cars are available in CH?
There are far more models available than the Prius... Honda has a lot and even Porsche:

http://www.porsche.com/swiss/de/mode...mera-s-hybrid/

http://www.porsche.com/swiss/de/mode...enne-s-hybrid/
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:18
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

I think hybrids are a 'fashion' now but are destined to die out soon. As mentioned before, modern diesels (with dpf) are very low on CO2 and don't pollute much (when we also take the poluting battery production into account).

For some reason I really like this new fully electric renault though, have the feeling it could become a cult object:



http://www.renault-ze.com/de-ch/gamm...lung-3090.html
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:43
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I think hybrids are a 'fashion' now but are destined to die out soon. As mentioned before, modern diesels (with dpf) are very low on CO2 and don't pollute much (when we also take the poluting battery production into account).

For some reason I really like this new fully electric renault though, have the feeling it could become a cult object:



http://www.renault-ze.com/de-ch/gamm...lung-3090.html

agreed, when you drive past everyone will say, "look at that cult" at least thats what you think they are saying
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:49
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Re: What Hybrid Cars are Available in CH?

There is only one type of car that should be allowed on the road! Petrol / Gasoline fueled cars! Any other type is just a compromise!
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Old 22.06.2011, 08:00
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agreed, when you drive past everyone will say, "look at that cult" at least thats what you think they are saying
Well, I think it has a certain cuteness like the old 2CV. At lease its different from the standard VWgolf-shaped box that all cars share nowadays
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Old 22.06.2011, 08:32
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I was thinking to buy a new car maybe in the next year or two, and would really like to get a hybrid car (I like the concept and energy efficiency), but as far as I know the selection is (for some reason) pretty limited, or at least I don't see alot of car manufacturers advertising them.

Does anyone know what hybrid cars are available in CH? I know the Toyota Prius is probably the most popular/affordable right now, but I'm not too keen on it (and now after watching "The Other Guys" last week, I just can't buy a Prius ). I know Lexus makes a hybrid SUV, but at something like 90k CHF that's out of my league (I'm an engineer, not a banker ) I'm looking more in the 30-40k CHF range.

Can anyone reccomend anything? Or has anyone heard of any new hybrid cars planned to be released int he next few years?
Being in the automotive business, I personally do not think the hybrids are all that special. I have always told my clients to just get a regular gas engine. I think they waste time and energy on Civics, Prius and the like. To increase gas mileage on all these small cars is a little ridiculous. Why not put the energy into the larger guzzlers. I also don't think the cost difference is worth it.
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