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Serves you right then as you didn't learn the last time
yeah I was expecting somthing like that as an answer from the tone of your query, but that doesn't answer my question.
Any one please? can someone advise if any appeals are possible once a 1 month suspension of license statement has been issued?
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yeah I was expecting somthing like that, but that doesn't answer my question.
Any one please? can someone advise if any appeals are possible once a 1 month suspension of license statement has been issued?
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LOL LOL LOL

Yes, appeal away, go in front of the judge, argue your case, then let us know the result when you get out

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LOL LOL LOL

Yes, appeal away, go in front of the judge, argue your case, then let us know the result when you get out

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LOL LOL LOL

Yes, appeal away, go in front of the judge, argue your case, then let us know the result when you get out

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yeah I was expecting somthing like that as an answer from the tone of your query, but that doesn't answer my question.
Any one please? can someone advise if any appeals are possible once a 1 month suspension of license statement has been issued?
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On what grounds would you appeal, or are you just trying to wriggle out of another time you were caught breaking the law?

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i don't see why you should laugh at someone else's problems
What problem, you got caught going to fast AGAIN, and not by a small margin AGAIN. You are entirely responsible for your right foot, and if your not, well you shouldn't be driving

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or are you just trying to wriggle out of another time you were caught breaking the law?


==>>dunno what that smily means?....if you can't help, don't make fun at-least

==>Yes i am trying to find if there is a way to wriggle out of this situation ??
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i don't see why you should laugh at someone else's problems
I'm laughing at the thought of someone who has already been done speeding on a motorway then gets caught doing 40kph+ over a couple of months later, going in front of a judge to argue why they shouldn't be banned. The judge will give you a huge fine, court costs, will increase your ban and could throw you in prison if he was having a bad day. You have got off light, take the ban pay the fine, get a slower car and a GPS with speed alert.

Get caught speeding again and your in serious bother, get caught driving during your ban and your in even more serious bother.
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==>>dunno what that smily means?....if you can't help, don't make fun at-least
Sound like you have the same mental block with speed limits then eh

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==>Yes i am trying to find if there is a way to wriggle out of this situation ??
Thought so, getting caught at a moronic speed here, was bad, a second time is just plain stupid.

Personally I would take my licks and learn the lesson, but as you didn't the 1st time maybe a ban will teach you what a financial punishment didn't.
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I'm laughing at the thought of someone who has already been done speeding on a motorway then gets caught doing 40kph+ over a couple of months later, going in front of a judge to argue why they shouldn't be banned. The judge will give you a huge fine, court costs, will increase your ban and could throw you in prison if he was having a bad day. You have got off light, take the ban pay the fine, get a slower car and a GPS with speed alert.

Get caught speeding again and your in serious bother, get caught driving during your ban and your in even more serious bother.

My friend every one that I know off from otuside Switzerland gets caught in traffic fine.
The first time it was 20+ kph over, I paid the fine and was the end of story. It was not on put on long term record....you know it because I posted on the forum...the judge won;t know it.

This is the first time I was above 30 kph pover ( 32 to be precise).
The rules that I have seen state it is to the discretion of the judge.

So I am trying to undertsand for the first time offense.......can the judge use his discretion and turn it over if I go and request / beg / appeal.

I am looking for a practical answer and not a Moral-Science bookish one.
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My friend every one that I know off from otuside Switzerland gets caught in traffic fine.
The first time it was 20+ kph over, I paid the fine and was the end of story. It was not on put on long term record....you know it because I posted on the forum...the judge won;t know it.

This is the first time I was above 30 kph pover ( 32 to be precise).
The rules that I have seen state it is to the discretion of the judge.

So I am trying to undertsand for the first time offense.......can the judge use his discretion and turn it over if I go and request / beg / appeal.

I am looking for a practical answer and not a Moral-Science bookish one.
Thx
you where done at 32kph over, which your speedo (give the accuracy and tolerances given to you) would have been reading 40kph+ over the limit so sorry old bean you where more then a little over.

was this on a motorway too?

30kph over on a non motorway is a serious offence here

(and yes I have been done speeding here, but not 'everyone' is)
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you where done at 32kph over, which your speedo (give the accuracy and tolerances given to you) would have been reading 40kph+ over the limit so sorry old bean you where more then a little over.

was this on a motorway too?

30kph over on a non motorway is a serious offence here

(and yes I have been done speeding here, but not 'everyone' is)

I was on a 120kph motorway...going at 162 per the speedometer...on a known part of the route between office and work that I do every day.
That day...and for only that one day in the entire year they put a mobile camera....and I got photographed.
With the deduction of speedometer and 7kph deduction that they do I was still 32kph over.
They sent me a fine of 900CHF...which I will have to pay.

BUT the suspension of license for a month is discretionary to the best of my undertsanding.
Is there anyone that I can go and cry in front of and beg and asked to be forgiven...so that they don't take away the license?

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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

the only practicle advise I can give is get the gps, take the ban but negotiate when it starts, take it while your on holiday, christmas is an excellent time, so it affects you less.

and drive slower!!
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I was on a 120kph motorway...going at 162 per the speedometer
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I was on a 120kph motorway...going at 162 per the speedometer...on a known part of the route between office and work that I do every day.
They sent me a fine of 900CHF...which I will have to pay.
So, in my little world, you're probably going that fast EVERY DAY. Hence, you should be paying a lot more. Let's just hope you don't end up costing someone else a lot more because you're so impatient to get home and all the other peasants are slowing you down.

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Is there anyone that I can go and cry in front of and beg and asked to be forgiven...so that they don't take away the license?
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Given your history of speeding, can you give them any very very good reason why they shouldn't take your license? Something better than 'Because I'm important!' or 'It'll be really inconvenient for me because I'll have to catch the bus to catch the train to get to work!' or 'I'll just drive without a license because I know these Swiss are idiots anyway'
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So, in my little world, you're probably going that fast EVERY DAY. Hence, you should be paying a lot more. Let's just hope you don't end up costing someone else a lot more because you're so impatient to get home and all the other peasants are slowing you down.



Given your history of speeding, can you give them any very very good reason why they shouldn't take your license? Something better than 'Because I'm important!' or 'It'll be really inconvenient for me because I'll have to catch the bus to catch the train to get to work!' or 'I'll just drive without a license because I know these Swiss are idiots anyway'
Just 10kms on the other side of my house in Germany...people drive worse cars at much higher speeds....and the accident rate is not higher than in Swiss.


Yes I drive everyday on that stretch between 140-160 as do dozens others.....no accidents occur.

Merely driving fast is dangerous is a rather "unintelligent notion."

Anyway to me driving fast is not unsafe...and trying to avoid losing a license is no diffrent from from finding legal ways to pay less taxes to the govt.
we all do that.

I would appreciate if someone can advise me on my query.
I can't help many who are sadistically jumping with joy and throwing "you-deserve it".....in the face...as if they never tried to find legal way to pay lesser taxes?
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I was on a 120kph motorway...going at 162 per the speedometer...on a known part of the route between office and work that I do every day.
That day...and for only that one day in the entire year they put a mobile camera....and I got photographed.
With the deduction of speedometer and 7kph deduction that they do I was still 32kph over.
They sent me a fine of 900CHF...which I will have to pay.

BUT the suspension of license for a month is discretionary to the best of my undertsanding.
Is there anyone that I can go and cry in front of and beg and asked to be forgiven...so that they don't take away the license?

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I'd view it this way, look at the sympathetic response you got on this and the last thread and ask yourself "do you feel lucky punk... well do ya" <<all Dirty Harry stylee>>. What possible reason could you give to justify going at that speed, and I wouldn't sugget the "I do that route every day" arguement, your inconvenience is of no concern to a beak, just facts...

2 silver linings to your cloud though:

1 - Public transport is good here
2 - The other folks who use that stretch (or any stretch you use) will be safe from you right foot excess, at least for a little while.

As for the moral thing, yep clearly wasted on you, I promise I won't do it again
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Merely driving fast is dangerous is a rather "unintelligent notion."

Anyway to me driving fast is not unsafe...

Really, and what do you base that on, what extra training have you had? in my experience its the over confident people who have the worst crashes, but what would I know ?

this would have also been during the cold spell we've been having right? with the black ice and snow, hope your winter tyres are correctly rated for the speed you have been doing.
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Really, and what do you base that on, what extra training have you had? in my experience its the over confident people who have the worst crashes, but what would I know ?
One must agree with you that speed is a killer.
But how come the Germans allow it ???
They don't seem to me an irresponsible bunch!
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One must agree with you that speed is a killer.
But how come the Germans allow it ???
They don't seem to me an irresponsible bunch!

Iran allows the stoning of woman, should we allow that to?

The few de-restircted german autobahns allow silly speeds and everyone knows the score, little swiss granny pulling out without indicating or looking isn't going to be expecting someone going 160kph to hit her up the arse (in fact most swiss drivers don't indicate or look) so when you clip them and hit the barriers at 160kph you can be smug in the knowledge that your driving skills are better then average.
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One must agree with you that speed is a killer.
But how come the Germans allow it ???
They don't seem to me an irresponsible bunch!
From what I've seen of Swiss drivers, I'm pretty sure comparing them to the Germans is not valid. Everyone here seems to think they are an F1 driver. The only problem is I'm not seeing the driving skills that back that up.

I'm also loving the 'Well, lots of other people speed and don't have accidents so I shouldn't lose my license because I've done nothing wrong!' logic. Still haven't heard a good reason why he shouldn't have his license revoked. Probably because he knows there isn't one.

Oh, and it's not a tax. It's a fine for breaking the law. Big difference.
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First deal with the following question:-
Is there anyone that I can go and cry in front of and beg and ask to get my dear one back after she or he has been maimed by a killer using a car instead of a gun?
When youve dealt with that question honestly, then you can move on!

Listen, I'm no angel, but I would'nt ever hope to get help!

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